Ukrainians Fighting Ukrainians
Forced military conscription (slavery is a better word) imposed on citizens of Ukraine has reached new heights recently.
The government in Kiev now demands those forced into slavery to hand over their cars for military use. As one might expect, avoidance of needless military slaughter has also reached new heights.
Before we get to those stories, I have a video to share. It is in Russian, but with English subtitles. I am told by reader Jacob Dreizin the translation is essentially correct, but a couple things were translated too literally.
I do offer this warning. The video is graphic and it does contain a lot of harsh language. The video is about captured Ukrainian POWs on a fool’s mission to retake the Donetsk airport. After about 12 minutes or so it gets gruesome, the beginning is not so bad.
Warning aside, I recommend watching the video, entirely. Watch the scenes where locals confront the Ukrainian POWs. The video accurately portrays Ukrainians fighting Ukrainians, not Ukrainians fighting Russians.
Ukrainian POW’s Face NAF Commander Givi and the Fury of Donetsk Residents
Link if Video Does not Play: UAF Storms Donetsk Airport and Gets Asses Handed to them by NAF.
Want a translation to Spanish, German, Dutch, Danish, or French? Go to Information Clearing House. That is where I picked up the Video.
- Around 4:41, “And if we dropped on Kiev such mines?” should be, “And if we dropped such mortar rounds on Kiev?”
- At 5:22, a more accurate translation would be “You’ll rebuild our city.”
- Around 8:30 to 8:57, “trucks” should be “armored vehicles (BMPs or BTRs).”
- At 12:11, “respected” should be translated as “my good fellow.”
- At 19:31, should be more like “…his hands go lame”, not his “…hands dry out.” They are translating too literally.
- At the end, the security guy is just joking about hanging him, obviously that’s out of the question. These POWs will be traded for NAF POWs.
Is that video rebel propaganda? You bet. Is it effective? Yep. And it’s also the truth. Kiev routinely sends soldiers on fool’s missions hoping for a miracle. Instead it’s been slaughter after slaughter.
“No Regular Units of the Russian Army in Ukraine”
An important admission came today from Ukrainian military chief of staff, General Viktor Muzhenko, at a press briefing: “No Regular Units of the Russian Army in Ukraine”.
Read link above for that statement. The title is different.
The admission was repeated by another Ukrainian news agency as well. Please consider Involvement of Russian Army in Illegal Armed Formation in Donbas.
Here’s an exact (unedited) translation. Meaning is crystal clear.
Armed Forces General Staff has information about the participation of soldiers of the army of the Russian Federation in the conflict in eastern Ukraine.
This was announced during a briefing Armed Forces Chief of Staff Lieutenant General Victor Muzhenko.
“To date, we have only the involvement of some members of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Russian citizens as part of illegal armed groups in the fighting. Fighting units of the regular Russian army today we’re also not. We have enough forces and means in order to inflict a final defeat even illegal armed formation “- he said.
Jacob Dreizin offers a better translation of the video in the first link.
“At this time, we have only proof of participation of individual members of the Russian Federation armed forces and Russian Federation citizens in the illegal armed formations (and) in military operations. Also, at this time we are not engaged in military operations against regular Russian army units.“
By “illegal armed formations“, he is referring to the DNR/LNR.
Even if one believes there are “Russian Regulars” in Ukraine, its probably a number of “trainers” not the alleged 15,000.
For further discussion, please see Attack on Mariupol Begins; 7,000-8,000 Ukrainian Forces Nearly Encircled in Northern Cauldron; US Sends Army Trainers.
Conscription of People, Cars in Ukraine for Mindless Slaughter
The mindless slaughter should be obvious from previous videos I have posted. So let’s move on to a another topic: new slavery (conscription) requirements.
Odessa Region “Recruits” Ordered to Quit Jobs and Turn Over Cars
Via translation please consider Odessa Region Recruits Ordered to Quit Jobs and Turn Over Cars.
In the Belgorod-Dniester district of Odessa region reserve servicemen were banned from leaving the area. The ban applies even to those who have not yet received a summons.
Businesses commissar requires organizations to dismiss employees receiving a summons and to ensure the attendance of recruits at the points specified in the mobilization orders.
In addition, citizens, businesses and organizations required to hand over to the military conscription office all serviceable vehicles.
Mobilization 2015: In Transcarpathia Entire Villages Go Abroad
Here’s another story on the same subject: Mobilization 2015: In Transcarpathia Entire Villages Go Abroad
In 2015, only 6% of persons subject to mobilization, are volunteers according to Oleg Boyko, Main Directorate of Mobilization. This compares to 20% in the first wave of mobilization in 2014.
“The biggest problem in mobilization activities in the Transcarpathian region,” – he said.
According to Boyko, sometimes whole villages leave the country. “There is a report of the Chairman of the Kosovo village of the district, according to which the local population has hired two buses and drove them to the Russian Federation.“
In the Ternopil region, there continues a mass escape of the male population abroad. “Strange as this may seem, people flee to the Russian Federation“, said Boyko.
“Strange as this may seem, people flee to the Russian Federation“, said Boyko. It’s only strange if you are a mindless idiot.
Military Servicemen Massively Flee Abroad
Also via translation, please consider Military Servicemen Massively Flee Abroad
The article relates to what Oleg Boyko, chief of the Draft Directorate of the Main Directorate for Defense and Mobilization Planning of the Ukrainian General Staff, said at a meeting with President Poroshenko’s office yesterday:
A representative of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine appealed to the government to formulate a bill to prevent citizens of Ukraine from leaving the country.
In particular, he suggested that the Government develop a change in the law “On the departure of Ukrainian citizens abroad, subject to conscription in a special period.”
A representative of the General Staff proposed to revise downward the list of enterprises, institutions and organizations that are exempt from equipment mobilization for the needs of the army.
He noted the need to amend border crossing rules due to the fact that during the current mobilization phase, entire villages go abroad to avoid conscription. In particular, they head to the territory of the Russian Federation.
According to the Ternopil military commissariat (draft board) “the population of Ternopol province is quitting their jobs en masse, with the goal of avoiding the draft. Draft eligibles are also leaving the country en masse. In the Ternopil region, two buses of the local population went to the Russian Federation.”
There are also problems with the mobilization of equipment for the needs of the army.
Here’s my belated advice to those living in Ukraine: “Get the F* out of Ukraine. Now!“
Small Price Theory Revisited
I wrote about the “small price theory” on August 8, 2014, in “Small Price to Pay”.
It seems the “small price” keeps getting bigger, and bigger, and bigger.
Jacob Dreizin wrote today … Maybe your “Small Price to Pay” friend would like to come to Ukraine and take the place of all these draft dodgers? Surely his life would be a small price to pay to keep the world safe for democracy. Instead, does he have any kids to spare?
That’s the problem isn’t it? As reader Bran from Spain once emailed, “Proponents of the small price theory never really have much at stake. Everyone else does.”
It’s pretty damn clear those in Ukraine whose sons and daughters are forced to fight a stupid war have decided “this ain’t no small price!” Meanwhile, those in the US who manufacture weapons and hope to send more of them to Ukraine for a profit are the biggest proponents of the “small price” theory.
My friend is not in the latter category, and he was staunchly against the Vietnam war. Rather, he simply is not thinking clearly now, idealistically hoping for some of global “UN-sponsored united world peace concept” (my phrasing not his), that must be defended at all costs, presumably even nuclear war with Russia.
Hop on the Bus Gus
In honor of Ukrainians citizens smart enough to disavow the “small price” theory and willing to tell their government to F* off, I offer this musical tribute.
Link if Video does not Play: 50-Ways Paul Simon
Hop on the bus Guss
Don’t need to discuss much
Just drop off the keys Lee
And get yourself free!
No one has the right to own you. No one. No government. Ever!
To disagree with the above is to support forced slavery.
This War is Over
The Vietnam war ended when public support turned against it, even though fighting continued long after.
The same applies here. The war is over. Hearts and minds have been lost along with the will to fight. Ukraine is split in two, barring a major military intervention by the US.
Even though the war is over, the fighting can continue. How much longer the battles go on now depends on the US and IMF.
- The US can fund the bloodshed for a while longer and so can the IMF. US war-mongers may decide no price is too high to pay, even to the absurd point of engaging Russia directly.
- The US and IMF can force true peace negotiations on Kiev with a partition or federation of the country. But, what may have been acceptable to the separatists and Russia six months ago may no longer be so.
Either way, Ukraine is never going to be a single country again. Such is the madness of arbitrarily drawing borders with no regard to cultural, political, or religious beliefs.
The war is over. Kiev lost, even with the backing of the US. Let the peace process begin before more lives are lost and more needless destruction occurs.
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Mike “Mish” Shedlock