Chaos Coming
Now that Balkan countries and Austria have closed the border to the North, 30,000 refugees are bottled up in Greece. More arrive daily.
In response, German Chancellor Angela Merkel wars of chaos. As to who is to blame for the chaos, the Chancellor ought to look in the mirror.
Merkel welcomed the refugees with open arms, and come they did, by the millions.
It’s time for plan “B” but Merkel does not have one. This led Austria and Nine Balkan Countries Effectively Tell Merkel Go to Hell.
The sad saga continues.
Please consider Greece Crisis Looms as 30,000 Migrants Stranded.
A clampdown along Balkan borders has left 30,000 migrants trapped in Greece, marking a new stage in the humanitarian crisis swamping Europe.
Countries farther up the migration trail, from Macedonia to Austria, are now letting in only a few hundred a day, and sometimes no one.
Allowing migrants to be stranded in Greece is considered the EU’s last option to halt the relentless inflow of people from the Middle East, South Asia and Africa. More and more EU governments have lost faith in German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s policy of stopping irregular migrants at Turkey, spreading bona fide refugees around the EU, and keeping Europe’s internal borders open.
Merkel warned this week of “chaos” in Greece, but other European Union leaders say there is no alternative to shutting down the Balkan migration route.
“The first priority is to rapidly stem the flows,” European Council President Donald Tusk said on Wednesday while visiting Croatia, a country on the now-constricted Balkan trail. Europe’s months long furor over migration “is testing our Union to the limit,” Tusk said.
Greece is rapidly becoming a pressure cooker. Refugees and other migrants are growing frustrated and angry. Hundreds tried to storm the border with Macedonia on Monday, only to be driven back with tear gas.
Chaos Cannot be Stopped
Chaos is coming one way or another. The only choice now is to accept chaos everywhere as Merkel wants or to try to limit the chaos to Greece.
That is the unpleasant choice.
Leaders Lead
Note that even European Council President Donald Tusk has abandoned Merkel.
A friend of mine who supports Merkel commented “Leaders lead. Even if it means they make unpopular choices.”
Indeed. Here are two more examples of leaders doing stupid things.
- Bush led us into an inane war in Iraq.
- Johnson led us to an inane war in Vietnam.
But hey, leaders lead. That’s what they do.
I prefer a leader willing to admit he or she made a mistake.
Mike “Mish’ Shedlock
Appears ‘keeping them in Turkey’ is a better policy.
The invasion force masses upon Greek shores.
“Always have a Plan B”
The problem is that Merkel caved into pressure (by the media and human rights organisations demanding open borders and leftist politicians) in the case with Hungary like a weak ineffective leader and welcomed everybody from Hungary into Germany despite Hungary trying to do it’s job and act like EU-regulations demanded and try to register everybody and stop them from going further into welfare-countries like Austria and Germany where asylum seekers want to go to get free everything.
Merkel even waived dublin-regulations for registered asylum seekers that sent an even stronger signal for everybody to come to europe.
This earlier Merkel’s crumbling under pressure of course means that people keep coming to Greece because they think Mama Merkel will cave in again and tell greece and all the countries in between that everybody is welcome to come to Germany which in reality means that everybody is welcome to live on german welfare getting free apartments and free money from german taxpayers after telling a story of “persecution” to a bureaucrat who most likely is rewarded by his superiors on fast processing times (because of the really stupid EU-directive demanding decisions on asylum applications in under 6 months) and no notice is taken of the fact that the bureaucrat in question might be accepting over 90% of asylum applications and making the decision solely on what the asylum seeker tells him/her in one interview.
Instructions on what to tell to bureaucrats to get them to give asylum and free apartment and free money for life and family re-unification for the whole family on welfare with that asylum decision in the case of western european welfare states are being spread in facebook groups of iraqis, syrians, somalians, afganistanis where there are hundreds of thousands of members in some of them.
The mistake Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia and Austria are making is that they are letting some people to get through.
The rush to Greece would stop if all these countries told CLEARLY that nobody is coming through their borders and if people want to seek asylum they can do it in Greece (which gives accepted asylum seekers a permit to stay and NOTHING else so if they do not work they will be sleeping in the warn greek streets) and EU could fund temporary asylum seeker camps in Greece with the same basic services as Turkey.
The above solution would work and the rush towards greece would stop if stupid EU decisions were also reversed like burden sharing (spreading asylum seekers from Greece to all EU countries by EU) and hotspots (EU-hotspots in greece where their asylum applications are processed and those granted asylum status or subsidiary protection would be spread around all countries of EU).
EU “solutions” have been non-solutions and have infact made the rush towards greece and europe stronger because they have sent the signal to everybody that not just Greece wants to push everybody to the north (like they have been doing for years and they stopped even the little enforcement they had after Syriza got into government and stopped border enforcement because Tsipras is for open borders like most european leftists with the only difference being that Tsipras wants everybody else to pay for everything where the common leftist talking point around europe is that “were rich, Germany/Sweden/Austria/Netherlands/Belgium/Norway/Denmark/Finland should act humanely and let everybody stay and our country’s taxpayers can pay for all the costs people coming cause”) but also EU itself wants to move everybody to the north and EU has actually FORCED EU-countries to move people around europe with the two burden sharing decisions and with the EU-hotspots in Greece decision.
The pull factor of Greece is that from Greece one can get to welfare countries which give free apartments, free money and family re-unifications on welfare and where asylum decisions are made by ineffective bureaucrats based on the story/fairytale/lies the asylum seekers tell in one interview.
It does NOT matter if asylum seekers get to welfare countries by greece giving them a boat ride to Greek mainland and a bus ride to macedonian border and then walking through a couple countries OR if they get to welfare countries by EU spreading the asylum seekers from Greece around Europe with burden sharing OR if they get to welfare countries by EU-hotspots in Greece where their asylum applications are processed quickly and then the majority are spread around europe by EU!
If Merkel was a man she would have been told many months ago that she is incapable of being a leader because she has made stupid decision after stupid decision and her own party would have voted no confidence in her and replaced her with Seehofer who has been right in almost every issue where merkel has been wrong and not just wrong but Merkel has continually made the stupidest decision there to make and worsened the situation continually.
When it is no longer possible, in any way, to reach european welfare countries with free everything policies through Greece the rush will stop and nobody will drown anymore because NOBODY wants to stay in Greece because they do NOT get the free stuff in Greece like they get from Austria northwards so nobody would want to come to greece if it would not be possible to get from greece to european welfare countries.
Merkel didn’t cave into any pressure. She is a leftie herself. She worked for the communist Agitation and Propaganda in the DDR!
Once West Germany agreed to unification all common sense in that country was wiped out. Unification, EU, Euro and now refugees. Why would any sane citizen want any of this? They are doing everything they can to destroy their country.
Have to rewrite and repost this from memory without links as previous comment didn’t show :
Greece gives three year residence to those granted asylum , and foreign residents in EU are allowed to travel freely within Schengen . I do not think it would be hard for resident migrants to change residency to a more suitable country afterwards , by sponsorship , work contract etc. , and so the migrant flows are likely to continue from Greece , somewhat less visibly than at present . For example Belgium offers EU nationality in the shortest time frame , after 5 yrs of residence , other northern countries will offer benefits or have more employment available .
While in Greece asylum seekers are allowed free range in Greek territory once registered , and I know from other accounts in Baltic countries that registry is a simple step in the journey north for most . I think that most will not voluntarily leave EU once in EU (Greece) , that simple , so only arranged repatriation is going to make a difference .
Macedonia should build a wall and EU should pay for it.
Greek people should look into the mirror to see that they are responsible and vote Tsipras and Syriza out.
German people should look into the mirror to see that they are responsible and vote Merkel and all parties in the Grand coalition out unless Merkel’s own party tells Merkel that she has no confidence and needs to step down and is replaced with Seehofer or somebody else who does not repeat “we can manage, we can manage” like Merkel does when rapes and gangrapes are happening and even regular foreigners and regular immigrants have to suffer from racism caused by Merkel’s irresponsible policies of opening borders and telling everybody to come thereby luring millions of muslims to Europe and Germany who are used to the way of life in muslim countries and have really small probability to get work because most are un-educated and there is already lot of unemployed europeans in europe and even the educated asylum seekers mostly do NOT have the skills to earn much more than welfare pays by working because they know little bit of english and not german one needs in Austria and Germany or other european languages one needs elsewhere.
When Merkel welcomed everybody it actually meant that almost everybody would get free apartments, free money and also get their family through family re-unification on welfare.
Swedish people should look into the mirror to see that they are responsible and vote Lofven and his Social Democrats out.
Every other european should ask their politicians:
Will you give more power to EU in immigration and asylum seeker policy?
And if the answer is yes vote them out.
AND
Since EVERYBODY is already safe in Turkey and Greece and the only reason people come to Greece is that through Greece they have been able to get to european welfare states offering free apartments, free money and family re-unifications on welfare are you in favor of Greece’s neighboring countries stopping EVERYBODY at their borders and telling people to seek asylum in Greece?
And if the answer is no vote them out because they have shown to be irresponsible.
Once in Greece asylum applicants are allowed to move freely within the country. If they are granted asylum, residence permits are issued. With residence permit the asylum seeker may travel freely in Schengen. I don’t know if it is easy to then change residence to another country, I imagine it is not too hard if you find a sponsor or employment. So the destination may then become countries that offer fast EU nationality, Belgium is the shortest at 5 years residence. Equally re-registering in another Schengen country and therefore being able to claim support there afterwards may be a route taken
So ‘storing’ asylum seekers in Greece may not deter entrants. Repatriation is not currently an option, even to Turkey, but should be.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RG1MJ20150916
http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-nationals/index_en.htm
Everybody was already SAFE in Turkey so everybody entering Greece should be re-patriated to Turkey.
Simple. Send them ALL back. All. They do not belong in Europe. The Arabs belong in Arabia and the North Africans belong in North Africa.
When it was finally understood that the Europeans of 1945-1950 did not “belong” in Africa, Asia and India, they left. Now, we have the same situation in reverse and it will result in the same results. Violence.
Turn them all around and march them back. The White Europeans are way too nice and stupid.
Every action has an equal opposite reaction. Germany is a humanitarian superpower today… lets see what kind of a beast Germany will turn into.
The cure for invaders is bread and water concentration camps until they beg to go home.
That is NOT necessary and would be inhumane.
What you are saying is actually the FALSE choice open borders people use to brainwash the regular people to support irresponsible asylum seeker policies where the only options are:
1.Let them drown, shoot them at the border, sink their boats
OR
2.Let everybody come and let bureaucrats give almost everybody asylum or subsidiary protection based on the story/fairytale they tell in one interview and which gives them a free apartment, free money and family re-unification straight to welfare in all western european countries and also the benefits locals get like free healthcare, free dental, free school, mostly free universities, mostly free childcare, childrens allowances 100-200 euros per child from government per month.
There is a third choice but it is almost always shouted down by the medi and open borders fanatics:
3. Enforce borders and enforce Geneva convention so that IF people are NOT coming STRAIGHT from the country where they are persecuted they are stopped at the border and told to seek protection in the country where they are.
NOBODY is being persecuted in Greece and infact everybody was already SAFE in Turkey (in the case of syrians) or in their home countries peaceful areas (afghanis, iraqis, somalians) or made a choice which led to them being prosecuted for a crime (army deserting eritreans lured by the fact that if an eritrean army deserter reaches western europe they get free apartment and free money FOR LIFE and family re-unification on welfare which sure beats spending couple years in their country’s army) so everybody should be stopped in Greece.
NOBODY would come from Turkey to Greece if the only pull factor Greece has, the possibility to get to european welfare states through Greece, would be removed and borders kept closed for asylum seekers who are in fact benefit-shoppers.
Economy is better in Turkey and unemployment is lower in Turkey and cost of living is much lower (floating Turkish Lira) and Turkey gives a free tent, free food and free water to all seeking protection who have no money and if they have money they can rent their own apartment inexpensivelý.
In fact most of the 2 million refugees in Turkey live in normal apartments.
EU “solutions” which have worsened the problem and increased the rush to Greece like burden sharing from Greece (spreading asylum seekers around EU-countries by EU) and hotspots in Greece where applications would be processed and accepted applicants spread around EU-countries by EU should be put into the hall of fame of stupid ideas or the hall of fame of bureaucrat incompetence.
Put their asses on Airbus 330s and fly them straight to Berlin.
Problem solved.
On Airbus 330’s? Wow that’s really mean.
“I was elected to lead, not to read”. Anyone remember this?
Get your money for nothing and your home for free is very enticing for those in the idle East and Africa. Most places are shit holes to be honest. Tribal or sector bickering and killing. Sure some of this is because of Syria but mostly once the word got out on social media the masses will come. Mutli-culturalism doe not work nor has it ever worked anywhere on the planet including the USA. Just look at any major city and you will know what I am talking about.
The real problem is Merkel may have destroyed the EU all by herself!!! Oh and her own country.
Mish,
Maybe an autocorrect slipped past you. You said
“Bush led us into an inane war in Iraq.
Johnson led us to an inane war in Vietnam.”
Did you actually type “Bush lied us into an inane war in Iraq
Johnson lied us into an inane war in Vietnam”?
Because that is how I see it. They worked their butts off to sell those lies so we should give credit where credit is due.
Open the borders and let them come until there is not a single European nation with a majority population, just a mosaic of minorities that all hate one another. This would lead failed states and endless wars on the European continent… and voila… over-population solved.
Europe does NOT have an overpopulation problem.
Africa and Middle-East have an overpopulation problem so even more people are coming in the future if Merkel’s insanity is not stopped.
American Indians feel the same way.
they killed each other as well.
Angela says: “I LOVE it when a plan comes together!”
Bomb and destroy Iraq (bush), Afghanistan (bush), Libya (Obomber), Syria (Obomber), Yemen (Obomber), push refugees we created into Europe – partly in order to destroy and German alliance with Russia), train and equip “ISIS” (actually the Ba’athist military elites in Iraq who CIA made a deal with in Iraq) to enter Libya, and push off to Greece to become the metal tip of the “refugee” (jihadi) spear into the heart of Europe.
Whoo Hoo! It WORKED.
Merkel was sweet talk by her higher-up (NWO people) to welcome the migrant . They gave her a sweet present in the form of Person of the Year in TIME magazine. She was elated for the attention. But now realized it was all a horrible free ride. The people in the TIME magazine is part of the NWO people.