On May 4, Brussels gave its approval to visa-free travel for Turks. That approval still needs to be ratified by a weighted average of ministers as well as the European parliament.
Just a few hours after the Brussels green light, Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan sacked Ahmet Davutoglu, the prime minister who negotiated the deal with German chancellor Angela Merkel.
In between, Renzi and Merkel held a love fest with an extremely skeptical France on the sidelines.
Final result: Uncertain but is Merkel pulling her hair out as her scheme is set to collapse.
My, how things change in a day.
EU Set to Approve Deal With Turkey
Flashback May 4: Brussels Gives Green Light to Visa-Free Travel for Turks.
The European Commission has recommended that Turks be granted visa-free travel in the EU despite Ankara’s failure to revise its terrorism legislation to ensure that it does not lead to the prosecution of peaceful protesters and journalists.
Granting visa-free travel to Turkey was one of the most controversial concessions granted to Ankara as part of a deal to convince Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish president, to clamp down on the influx of refugees into the EU. The EU has also promised €6bn in aid and reopening negotiations on some elements of Turkey’s EU membership application.
The travel deal has strong backing in Germany, but several other EU members are skittish about the concession, particularly in France, where President François Hollande has faced withering criticism from the surging rightwing National Front party over the policy.
Bruno Le Maire, one of the contenders for the centre-right presidential nomination said on Wednesday that he “opposed” a decision made “in a hurry and without consulting national parliaments”, echoing views expressed by Nicolas Sarkozy, chairman of the Republicans party, as well as by Marine Le Pen, the National Front leader.
“Liberalising the visa regime means granting freedom of movement to Turkish citizens in Europe,” Mr Le Maire, a former agriculture minister, said. “In case of political or economic crisis in Turkey, will our societies have to bear the brunt of a potential influx of Turkish citizens?”
The programme must still clear both national ministers, who have to approve Turkey’s admission to the scheme by a weighted majority of member states, and the European parliament, where there were already signs that the scheme may be in trouble.
Manfred Weber, a conservative German MEP who heads the parliament’s largest party group, broke from his political ally Chancellor Angela Merkel, saying it was wrong for the commission to back the scheme.
“There must be no watering down of the rules on visa liberalisation for Turkey,” Mr Weber said. “It is hard to understand why the commission is now proposing visa liberalisation despite Turkey not meeting all the criteria.”
Shaky Ground
As you can see the deal was on shaky ground. It appears France was prepared to say no, and without a doubt Poland, Slovokia, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Austria were adamantly opposed to the deal.
But Italy is in favor.
Merkel-Renzi Love Fest
On may 5, Renzi and Merkel Hit out at Austria’s Fence to Keep Out Refugees.
Matteo Renzi, the Italian prime minister, issued a stinging rebuke of Austria’s far-right Freedom party as he joined forces with Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, to criticise Vienna’s policy of building fences to keep out refugees.
At a press conference in Rome that showed Mr Renzi and Ms Merkel to be on warmer terms than they have been in recent months, the two leaders appeared to converge on criticism of Austria’s decision to erect a fence at its southern borders, including the Alpine Brenner Pass.
“We expressed our clear disagreement and shock at certain positions taken by our Austrian friends at the Brenner. They are mistaken and anachronistic positions. They defy logic and history and are not justified by any emergency,” Mr Renzi said.
Mr Renzi has been pushing for the EU to strike deals with African countries to curb migration flows in exchange for development aid, akin to the contentious agreement struck in March between Brussels and Turkey.
Ms Merkel backed the idea, but Italy and Germany still disagree on how to finance such a plan. Italy has proposed joint EU bonds, but Berlin has opposed that idea and the pair remain at loggerheads over a funding mechanism.
Finance and Logic Disagreement
Renzi says Austria defies logic. Actually, it is Renzi and Merkel who defy logic.
Who is supposed to pay for Merkel’s idiotic schemes?
Heck, Merkel and Renzi could not even agree on how to finance a tiny piece of the problem, let alone the entire inane deal.
Bribes Enter the Picture
Voting is weighted so let’s presume #1 Germany and #3 Italy vote yes. Let’s presume #2 France votes no. #4 Spain, pretty much isolated from the problem could easily be persuaded to vote yes. All it would take is a bit of leniency in meeting its budget targets.
It’s not quite that simple because the deal must me approved by both a weighted majority of member states, and the European parliament. But if bribes are what’s needed then one should expect bribes.
All Hell Breaks Loose
Unfortunately for Merkel, but fortunately for any level-thinking EU citizen, the Turkish prime minister who negotiated the deal with Merkel was forced out of office by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in a power struggle.
That Turkish Power Struggle Threatens EU Migrant Deal.
A pivotal deal to staunch the flow of migrants from Turkey into the EU, masterminded by Angela Merkel, German chancellor, is in doubt after Turkey’s pro-European prime minister resigned.
Ahmet Davutoglu, who personally negotiated the deal with Ms Merkel, quit on Thursday following a power struggle with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The premier’s departure imperils an agreement credited with sharply reducing the influx of asylum-seekers into the EU — and rescuing Ms Merkel from a potentially fatal political backlash.
Without reforms to Turkey’s antiterrorism and anti-corruption laws, which Mr Erdogan has angrily resisted, Brussels may be unable to grant some of the most important concessions in the deal — a move that Ankara has already warned would cancel its obligation to curtail refugee crossings into Greece.
When Ms Merkel set out to persuade sceptical EU countries to back the migrant deal, one of her central arguments, according to diplomats, was that it would shore up the pro-European faction in Ankara, led by Mr Davutoglu.
Instead, the deal hastened the demise of her main Turkish ally and left the pro-Europeans seriously weakened.
EU officials said that they believed that the visa-waiver deal was the “straw that broke the camel’s back” in the Davutoglu-Erdogan rift. The final breakdown came just hours after the European Commission recommended the deal go forward Wednesday, with the Brussels leadership making clear they saw it as a way to pull Ankara back into the EU’s sphere.
European lawmakers who must now approve the deal say they are becoming increasingly wary.
“If this was an isolated incident, you could say it’s just an internal affair,” said Marietje Schaake, a Dutch liberal who has become a leading voice on Turkey in the European parliament. “But we’ve seen a series of incidents that are clearly a pattern towards authoritarianism. It’s time the EU starts to connect the dots and see it for what it is.”
What Went Down
- Merkel went behind the backs of EU officials to negotiate a deal with the Turkish prime minister.
- The Turkish prime minister went behind the back of Turkish president Erdogan.
- Being the complete fools they are, the EC praised Turkey, giving a green light to the deal.
- Within hours of the EC’s approval, Erdogan canned his prime minister.
- All hell breaks loose.
A weighted majority of ministers still have to approve Merkel’s preposterous agreement as does the European parliament.
If either group comes to its senses, this deal collapses.
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Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Merkel thinks with her ovaries. Muslim terrorist invaders have little babies.
Merkel doesn’t think. She just follows orders from the people pulling HER strings.
Merkel doesn’t think. She just follows orders from the people pulling HER strings.
OK who is telling Merkel what to do?
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Erdogan has specifically and repeatedly told his people to
EMIGRATE to EU
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In addition he and others then send money and finance mosques
in certain neighborhoods. They then take over and ignore local
law and culture.
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Merkel knows this and is insane to permit it – but has.
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https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=nw&gws_rd=ssl#hl=en&q=erdogan+emigrate+not+assimilate
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AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE
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They often do NOT Assimilate.
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Often They do not Work. They collect government benefits.. and practice their own law.
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in the US More than 90 percent of recent refugees from Middle Eastern nations are on food stamps and nearly 70 percent receive cash assistance, according to government data.
According to Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) data highlighted by the immigration subcommittee staff of Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) — chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest — in FY 2013, 91.4 percent of Middle Eastern refugees (accepted to the U.S. between 2008-2013) received food stamps, 73.1 percent were on Medicaid or Refugee Medical Assistance and 68.3 percent were on cash welfare.
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An estimated 40% of Muslim youth in France and 50% in Germany are unemployed but far from destitute. Rather, they receive a wide range of social benefits. [2]
For example, an estimated 40% of welfare outlays in Denmark go to the 5% of the population that is Muslim. [3]
According to Otto Schily, former German interior minister, speaking of immigrants in general: “Seventy percent of the newcomers [since 2002] land on welfare the day of their arrival.” [4] In Sweden, perhaps the most acute case, immigrants are estimated at 1.5 million out of 10 million people; immigration is estimated to cost almost $14 billion per year. [5]
http://acdemocracy.org/muslim-immigrants-draining-european-social-benefits/
There are about 16.6 million Kurdish people in Turkey. Can’t say how many of them would like to move to EU but I could guess couple of million or so and few Turks on top of that. Thinking of these numbers the people that came earlier would be the lesser problem…
Our leaders have lost the plot long time ago. I am more of a liberal rather than right wing in my views but this kind of madness does not appeal to me. It will destroy the societies from inside collapsing the welfare system, schools and healthcare.
If this is allowed to continue, we will see major problems or war in Europe.
Very interesting thought. I am pretty sure that aiding in relocation of entire group of people would be considered aiding in homicide.
If young people in my country had emigrated after WWII my country would have been much less today. And the EU, and others, are now bleeding these countries in Africa for their best people. For nothing more than that they will live on welfare for the rest of their life.
Sickening.
Not sure if that was what Samijr was notioning but the point is valid. Even within EU this is happening very clearly, the youth are headed out of their home countries to the north. Those who like to think positively of it consider they will then pick up better skills and more disciplined ways with which they will then eventually return to their home countries. On the other hand is what actually goes on in real time, and that would be the destruction of local societies, culture and politics… we have yet to witness the newly indoctrinated return to their nations and try and sort out the destruction left behind, and if they do, it won’t be to rebuild their ancestral culture but to install a new one for their new masters.
Their best people?
Prepare for the back splash. Social engineering is naturally doomed to failure because it is centrally planned.
Ideas have consequences,,,a missing equation in the agenda.
Create problem (blow up Syria and Libya, creating massive refugee inflows).
Provide solution. We must have a stronger EU/Brussels. It is for your own good. Nationalism is bad. (Bad for the elite, that is.)
Further long term goal of splintering population into special interest groups so they can be more easily controlled. They fight over the scraps, and the elite get away with whatever they want because no one is paying attention.
Case in point. Londons new mayor is a muslim.
Just think now Turkey could give the refugees Turkish passports and they can legally spread without all of the controversy. Free travel for all!!!!!!!!!
Don’t think it won’t come down to that. Plus, you will have lingering Kurdish hostilities that the EU will play host to whenever they see the need to lash out at (supposed) Arab aggressors within theEU countries. Unbelievable difficulties up ahead and it’s laughable to think the elite Eurocrats will have any control of the ensuing mayhem.
Then there are the Armenian groups already established in EU that are handled similarly, and the Greeks are no friends of Turkey at all, as well as Cyprus getting bailed in and no resolution in sight to the border dispute.
This is chaos which some in power wish to get ahead with by presiding over imagined eventual solutions. Merkel is a chemist, obviously someone who should know that certain mixtures become volatile or explosive.
Merkel is Chamberlain reborn. If either had been in charge during WWII they would have let Hitler walk in. If this goes through, kiss Europe as we know it goodbye. This is what happens when socialism runs amok.
A new Hitler is coming.
A the pieces are in place.
looks like Turkey is calling all the shots.
And they’re not even in the EU!!!
to paraphrase recent speech by David Cameron.
“I find that Shakespeare provides language for every moment. Just consider what we’re thinking about at the moment.
“There was a moment when it looked like this reshuffle could go into its Twelfth Night. Yes.
“It was a revenge reshuffle, so it was going to be As You Like It.
“I think we can conclude it’s turned into something of a Comedy of Errors.
“Perhaps Much Ado about Nothing?
(though Cameron was talking about the Labour party leader, and not the EU)
We should be raining nuclear Armageddon down on Turkey instead of embracing them. These scum are responsible for both the Armenian genocide as well as the rise of ISIS. They deserve nothing less than complete annihilation.
Take it easy,killer.
If nothing else, at least the Turks know which restroom belongs to which gender. That puts them slightly above the US these days.
Any way we could redirect that fire mission to Capital Hill? To maybe cut off the head of the serpent?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36229468
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36224839
Death of the Wast
Suicide of the White Race
Genocide and Extermination.
Those of us who “woke” up 40 years ago, and started to study everything we could get our hands on, are not surprised. Turn the White people of Europe (America and Australia) into minorities and the conquest is complete.
Do a background check on Merkel. She is not even German.
Gee, won’t all ‘refugees’ now just be given Turkish passports with which they can claim unrestricted access across Europe anytime they want? Problem solved (for Turkey) now that passports and train tickets can be given to all 3 million ‘refugees’ currently in the camps and they’ll quickly be gone to Europe.
“Heck, Merkel and Renzi could not even agree on how to finance a tiny piece of the problem, let alone the entire inane deal.”
‘Finance? ,, finance?,,,,we don’t need no stinking finance, we’ll just print the newbies welfare. And if that ain’t enough, we’ll print the entire GDP. Then we’ll double it,,, no,,, TRIPPLE it.
In the end we’ll destroy physical currencies and go all electronic, to the point all subjects will work for the state. Then all those pesky prols will behave. That or no pablum.’
Anyone out there besides me believe that the Fed is already “creating”
a large portion of GDP? Really, this whole dog and pony show should have gone in the tank back in 08, but it didn’t, proving the Fed’s life support systems can prop it all up.
And as long as the Fed life support is there, the disfunctional Zombie economy will continue to muddle along at an ever diminishing pace, until the state owns it all. How long before reset? Sans war, maybe 60 or 70 years, ala Soviet?
Or, how to boil frogs the incremental way.
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