In a stark warning as to what will happen if Chancellor Angela Merkel allows Turkish citizens visa-free travel throughout Europe, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says “Contraception is Treason, Women Not Equal to Men, Muslims Must Multiply Descendants “.
Please consider Turkey’s Erdogan Warns Muslims Against Birth Control.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called on Muslims to reject contraception and have more children.
In a speech broadcast live on TV, he said “no Muslim family” should consider birth control or family planning.
“We will multiply our descendants,” said Mr Erdogan, who became president in August 2014 after serving as prime minister for 12 years.
In Monday’s speech in Istanbul, the Turkish leader placed the onus on women, particularly on “well-educated future mothers”, to not use birth control and to ensure the continued growth of Turkey’s population.
Mr Erdogan himself is a father of four. He has previously spoken out against contraception, describing it as “treason” when speaking at a wedding ceremony in 2014.
He has also urged women to have at least three children, and has said women cannot be treated as equal to men.
Turkey’s fertility rate is one of the highest in Europe and the country’s relatively young population (compared with other European countries) is still growing. The population is just under 80 million.
Not only is this a warning to Europe, it is fodder for the Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Isn’t the official view of the Roman Catholic church pretty much the same?
Is Erdogan a representative of the church?
He wants to take Turkey from being a secular nation to a Muslim nation
In Islam, you get the whole lot as one inseparable theocratic package: Muslim religion, Sharia law, politics (no alternatives allowed – look up Saudi Arabian political parties!), finance (Sharia law again – no interest permitted, etc.), language (classical Arabic), etc. If Erdogan is an Islamic leader, he is effectively the religious, legal, political and military head of a Turkish dictatorship (sorry, I mean People’s Islamic Theocracy.
There is virtually no correlation between religious affiliation and the use of birth control/planning, so all the flaming rhetoric about religious doctrine as a cause of this or that is moot. Factors affecting people’s choices in such matters can be analyzed with statistical regression, and religious affiliation is not an important factor. Second generation muslim families in Europe down size, just as do middle class Roman Catholic Latin Americans.
Similar, but not quite the same. Church doctrine opposes contraception, but not planning, per se. You can indeed choose the number of children,or not to have children, as long as no artificial methods to prevent conception are used. The so called rhythm method is permissible, as is pulling out. Most 1st world Catholics ignore this.
Not just the 1st world Catholics that ignore the pulling out , IMHO , but then they should/would not be in there unless they were secure in their faith from the start….
No, “pulling out” is onanism and a grave sin… rhythm method is not advised anywhere, Natural Family Planning is based on sympto-thermal and is superior method-effective over any artificial birth control. Catholics need a grave reason to practice NFP. But yes, largely ignored…
Question: What do you call couples who use the rhythm method?
Answer: Parents
The goal of the catholic church was the same. More minions to lord over.
Which is of course why the Ruling Class Oligarchy wants more immigrants.
Not so, the goal of Islamic population and demographics is domination. And Muslims in Europe do have higher birthrates then EU natives.
‘Women not equal to men’ – that’s going to go down well with Empress Merkel. Good luck with your EU-negotiations Erdo!
Equality is a projected trait that exists only in the surreal world of hypothetical conjecture, such as politics. That people will establish their actions based on the concept is an affirmation of their misguided beliefs, which must necessarily be applied to all equally to maintain any coherence.
So I read the word ‘doctrine’ – or how to define others with complete disregard to their actual individual existence… whether for profit or of laziness.
Unfortunately, Empress Merkel is a slut. That is something Erdo, whatever else he may be, cannot be, so proving the point.
At least where equality is used in religion we understand beforehand that it is a matter of faith .
Where it is used in law it is understood to mean that we will be equally subject to, and therefore we are automatically not equals, but subservient .
The Stupid White Europeans are going to get what they deserve with their idiotic “equality” and “multi-cultural” stupidity.
If you are a man of Northern European descent between 25 and 32 you may wish to redefine your life.
Consider marrying a woman in the 19-22 age bracket, living on a single income (yours), and having 3+ children. Choose to live debt free, and plan on buying real estate during the next crash that can be used to generate income. Learn a trade skill, homeschool your children in electronics, robotics, math, and western history and philosophy.
Note of all these, the wife selection is the hardest part. Most young women these days are so narcissistic, hedonistic, and have no conception of a world greater than themselves.
Fortunately, as a man, you can provide a plan, purpose, and direction. Women like these very much. Your starting point will be your personal development.
This Erdogan has no more respect for the EU than the mexican government leaders have for the US. The plan is to saturate the EU with muslims, propogate like mink and change the entire face of the culture.
Today in Mexico the birth rate only averages about 2.3 offspring per woman. Yet mexican immigrants (many indigents) to the US produce on average about 3.5 offspring. Compare that to the overall average birthrate of about 2 kids per woman in the US.
Expect higher numbers in Europe.
Yet the western leaders continue to bend over for Erdogan like Obama has bent over for Nieto, Calderon and Fox. Hmmm.
Makes one wonder who’s looking out for us?
And don’t forget that immigrant generations are shorter than those who have been here for a while. Some consider reproducing in their teens to be acceptable.
Couldn’t China or India do that now?
Nobody is looking out for “us”, the White race. In fact, they want us exterminated.
Erdogan may encourage Muslims to multiply, but we have subtracted them instead. The next step is to eliminate Muslim proselytizing by division, and then we can de-exponeniate them. We will not be over-run by savages.
We could all solve the immigration problem by removing welfare from the books. Open borders and welfare can never be mixed.
There is a great irony in the fact that natives of welfare nations have lower birth rates, whereas for immigrants from poorer nations welfare is an encouragement. It isn’t that the reasoning for this is a mystery ( western values pushing for career achievement, a higher personal satisfaction outside of family , higher standard of preparation before starting family etc. vs. the tradition in poorer nations of family providing support later on, stronger numbers in dealing with the outside world etc.), but its effect seems unshakeable.
There’s been more than one study done on birth rates over the world map… what it comes down to seems to be: Longer living peoples tend to have less children – shorter lifespan populations seem to produce more children. It seems to self regulate. This migrant problem is different – they are using immigration and Euro welfare to breed until they have enough to obliterate populations of the host countries. here’s a good one from Stefan Molyneux.
Granted , however the shorter or longer lifespan would likely be indicative of the economic advancement of a nation . The regulation that occurs could therefore be assumed to be a multi-generational evolution within societies and cultures , just as standards of living evolve over that time-frame .
The take away is that if you introduce people directly from fast breeding cultures , who remain in close contact with their original culture (this is a new phenomena due to travel and communication , but an old one also in terms of migrants establishing cultural enclaves) , they will not take on the attributes of their new host nation in a reasonable period , instead they will interact with it, and look to influence it, according to their native culture .
This is openly understood and being pushed for by foreign powers that look to gain a demographic advantage in other countries , yet never before have such efforts been welcomed by host countries that I know of (with the possible exception of invitation to citizens of allied nations in newly conquered lands maybe). It is absurd , like countries in EU opening to each other and then saying ‘and why not Syrians or Turks also ‘ etc. … and before they barely started to manage their own integrations in any meaningful way.
Also regression to high birth rates may occur in situations of stress where males take the dominant role and female discretion plays a smaller role .
Greg, obviously, it is not working because there has been a huge increase in the number of people overall, so there is not some sort of balance being maintained between death and births.
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Just looking over a graph for EU and population more than tripled over 200 yrs , at which point it is now levelling . That is to say it took 200 yrs of evolution to get to the point where the population no longer seemed committed to expanding , for whatever reason – but not for a basic lack of resources .
Developing countries are on the trend of increasing population still , and I think it would be a complete guess for how long they might stay that way before levelling off , or to try to guess how migrant populations might behave in demographic terms and over how long .
So the self regulating I suppose is over a much larger timespan than we would normally consider , the self part referring to by social choice as opposed to due to resources etc. ?
To successfully engage illegal immigration welfare must go first. Or there must be strict laws that are enforced which prohibit illegals from coming here for jobs and free goods and services. Sort of like Mexico does. We could deport 20 million of them. But if there are free goods and services to be had they’d find a way to return and freeload some more. Our leaders are encouraging it – which lowers the standard of living and quality of life for native born citizens. E-Verify would be an easy system to implement. And fine the hell out of employers who hire illegals. But that won’t happen. The real enemy are our own leaders. Illegals are treated better in America than our veterans returning from war zones. It’s repulsive.
Only western countries have this welfare set-up , in other countries you are on your own .
Similar to US veterans , I have heard many stories of EU locals being in far worse circumstance than migrants and not helped , quite the opposite . Privileges given to migrants over locals , even over seniors .
I don’t think repulsive is strong enough a term , sometimes it seems genocidal.
More immigrants. Less welfare. They ‘re willing to die in the desert, drown in the sea, and risk robbery and rape en route because they want to work in a land of peace and freedom. But we cannot afford to honor their human rights to travel, to reside and to work where they choose if we maintain a welfare state.
There is no ‘human right to travel, reside and work’; if there was why do countries have visa systems?
As with all rights, the rights to travel, to contract one’s labor, to reside where one chooses are not absolute. Visa systems should only effectuate the limited exceptions to. Those human rights. persons who have acted violently should be excluded, for example. The burden is on those who were would exclude an immigrant to prove that a particular immigrant did something to forfeit his or her rights
The right to travel interstate Is recognized in our constitutional jurisprudence. I’m not in the right place to find the decisions’ names but A quick Google search would come up with our Supreme Court’s opinions recognizing that right Same principles should apply to international travel
So yes these rights do exist. No one has a right to medical care or a right to food. But people do you have a right to travel and to live where they want We should permit far greater immigration – we should allow people to come here in masses But, again, with much less welfare.
It is no coincidence that states with the best welfare benefits also have the most people on welfare. Same thing with the homeless. Those services that cater to the homeless also have the most homeless residents.
It will never make the mainstream.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c
Erdogan also told Turkish Germans not to assimilate into German society.
“The Turkish government has sent 970 clerics — most of whom do not speak German — to lead 900 mosques in Germany that are controlled by a branch of the Turkish government’s Directorate for Religious Affairs. Turkish clerics in Germany are effectively Turkish civil servants who do the bidding of the Turkish government.
Erdogan has repeatedly warned Turkish immigrants not to assimilate into German society. During a trip to Berlin in November 2011, Erdogan declared: “Assimilation is a violation of human rights. […]
The Turkish clerics in Germany are effectively Turkish civil servants who do the bidding of the Turkish government. Critics accuse Erdogan of using DITIB mosques to prevent Turkish migrants from integrating into German society.”
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7931/germany-islam-law
So we have these clerics, who are sent by the Turkish government, making sure that the Turkish immigrants do not assimilate.
Are any of these so-called men of the cloth in the US? If so, where exactly. Trump is right about the muzzies.
Obviously the German leadership must be FULLY AWARE of the attitudes of both Muslim countries and migrants . In fact the path of ‘sympathetic’ leaders has been to use the inevitable conflict as a justification to further their own powers and intervention .
That is a very distorted way to build or evolve a nation .
Those domes on the top of the mosque resemble the top of a portable grills.
Coincidence, I think not. Pig roast, anybody?
http://www.bbqguys.com/item_item_2193237.html
The stupid Germans are going to get what they deserve for allowing the untermenchen to take over their county. Islam will rule and they will be sent to the camps.
The Gatestone Institute is an Israeli/AIPAC propaganda mill. Please go to the Gatestone web page and look at the members of the Institute. My essential point is that it is not a news or mere opinion organization. It is a specifically propagandistic organization.
What if they held a race war and white people never showed up.
Guess we’ll find out.
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in Santa Clara County an in married woman with a child gets five hundred dollars per child. that does not include food stamps and other family AIDS
The question is not what idiocy some church spouts at their credulous masses. There are a bunch of people not yet out of the dark ages who do indeed believe that some human speaks to them with the voice of a god; and those cretins get exactly what they deserve by heeding that hierarchical mouthpiece of predation.
The question is how we defend ourselves from their civilian armies. For the selection of answers, see Rome, 390 BC to 200 AD: you stop them from coming in, or you enslave them en masse and put them to work doing jobs your people are too good for. Obviously, Europe has chosen option two, which is kind of a pity.
Me, I’m with Trump. Send them off to the theocracy most congruent with their primitive mentality. But let’s keep them out of civilization, for goodness’ sake.
I hope and pray when Trump is elected that he will not be afraid to nuke any country which pisses us off. First on the list is Turkey and next is Saudi Arabia. I want to see mushroom clouds over Istanbul and Mecca.
I’ve seen this movie before:
http://youtu.be/6Dnm8N9JbvU
Short seven-minute video re Muslim immigration to Europe. Scary how this will change the face of Europe. Why? Who is doing this? What is the point of wiping out cultures?
Erdogan is worried because the Kurds make up about 15% – 20% of the total Turkish population. The birth rate for the Kurds is much higher than the rest of Turkey – 3 vs 1.9 . Erdogan is afraid of the future that is why he wants the Kurds to leaveTurkey asp.
Trying to figure out med. migration numbers, seeing as we are told the flow has stopped. Seems that though decreased over a month or two due to EU attempted rules of return, now the trend starts upwards. All in, still much higher numbers for start of this year vs. last year….and a lot more drownings:
https://www.iom.int/news/mediterranean-migrant-arrivals-2016-204311-deaths-2443
http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/606371/Imam-tells-muslim-migrants-to-breed-with-Europeans-to-conquer-their-countries
This is nothing new really. Islamists, Mormons, Amish, all kinds of extremely patriarchal religious systems have relatively high birth rates. If I didn’t believe that the global society was collapsing, I’d say they are the future.
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