Inquiring minds may be interested in the number of military officers, generals, judges, teachers, and ordinary citizens detained or fired by Turkey’s president Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
Facts Not Needed for Extradition
Yesterday, ABC news reported Turkey Fires Tens of Thousands in Coup Plotters Hunt.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan raised the issue in a phone call with U.S. President Barack Obama, and his spokesman said the government was preparing a formal extradition request for the cleric, Fethullah Gulen. But he also suggested that the U.S. government shouldn’t require the facts before extraditing him.
“A person of this kind can easily be extradited on grounds of suspicion,” said the spokesman, Ibrahim Kalin. “And there is very strong suspicion for his involvement, for Gulen’s involvement, in this coup attempt. So this is sufficient ground.”
Erdogan Targets More than 50,000 in Purge After Failed Turkish Coup
The Globe and Mail reports Erdogan Targets More than 50,000 in Purge After Failed Turkish Coup
The following scorecard was pieced together from the preceding two articles and other sources.
Erdogan Scorecard
- Education Ministry: 15,200 teachers fired
- Interior Ministry: 8,777 employees fired
- Finance Ministry: 1,500 employees fired
- Energy Ministry: 300 employees fired
- Erdogan’s Office Staff: 257 people fired
- Directorate of Religious Affairs: 492 staffers fired
- Generals and Admirals: 85 generals and admirals jailed pending trial
- Judicial: 2,745 judges fired
- Police officers: 8,000 fired
- Coup participants: 9,322 security personnel, judges, prosecutors, religious figures detained
That comes to 46,678. I am sure there are another 5,000 if not 20,000 unaccounted for in the above scorecard.
Are we really supposed to believe 85 generals were involved in this coup and it failed?
Awaiting Death
Death Penalty Raises Stakes For Merkel
Erdogan now wants to reinstate the death penalty so he can kill everyone he suspects of being against him. The death penalty is against EU rules, Raising the Stakes for Merkel on the migrant deal.
In a phone call on Monday, Merkel personally told Mr Erdogan that capital punishment was “in no way compatible with the aim of EU membership.”
However, as hypocritical, self-serving, and foolish as ever, Steffen Seibert, the chancellor’s spokesperson, said this week that the Turkey deal remained in place, saying it should “be viewed separately” from the coup and its aftermath.
In spite of the coup attempt; terrorist attacks in Nice, Paris, and Brussels; and an ISIS-Inspired Train Attack in Germany this week, Merkel is bound and determined to give 80 million Turks visa-free access to the EU to save her preposterous refugee deal with Turkey.
On July 18 I noted French PM Booed in Tribute to Nice Victims.
Physicists and psychologists need to study Merkel’s mind. It has turned into a black hole so dense that no intelligent thought on the refugee crisis can possibly escape.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
I suppose the Irony Fairy is having a field day. A German appeasing a dictator. What IS the world coming to?
Occams’s Razor my ass.
Occam is running interference for dark forces.
Apparently history has taught Merkel nothing. Bringing Erdogan into the EU fold would be analogous to putting out the welcome mat for Adolf Hitler.
My guess is that there are no public union protections in Turkey. Well, with all their shortcomings at least that’s one gold check mark in their plus column.
Imagine if someone in America had the power to do that. Productivity would skyrocket overnight.
This will be a blood bath before it’s over. Erdogan has declared a state of emergency and undoubtedly will assume more powers.
Christie suggested something similar – Congress should pass a law letting Trump fire anyone in the Federal Government. That would be a purge I would love to seel
Why stop at Federal workers? Let him pink slip state and city workers too! Imagine the billions of dollars we would save in future pension costs and the improved customer service! The best part is I wouldn’t have to stand in line at DMV for 4 hours to get a stupid driver’s license renewed. Imagine that….no more sloths working at DMV. That would be like heaven.
Exactly! Erdogan is simply reducing the size of government, upholding his “conservative principles”.
Progressives will claim he is a “right wing extremist” because of his fundamentalist Islamic beliefs, completely ignoring that what he wants is exactly the same as every progressive….absolute control and the illegalization of “hate speech” that would include any criticism of his rule.
As we now see in our country, criticism is a threat to peace, and only those who would kill cops are true patriots as they are only responding in desperation to injustices inherent to our society.
It’s the NSP against the Bolsheviks redux, except the Bolsheviks are now centered in the NATO alliance. Things are likely to get a bit basic.
Paul Bremer advising?
“15,200 teachers fired”
Is this Erdogan’s way of eliminating Mullah Guhlen’s Islamic schools and Guhlen’s influence? I have not seen any information on the “fired” teachers other than that the “firing” was by way of lifting their teaching licences. No word on who their employer was.
Teachers, professors, social media, and books are incompatible with an Islamic State.
Erdogan must have studied how Stalin consolidated power. Regardless of the EU stance expect the firing squads to be working overtime in Turkey.
Erdogan is showing his true character. How Germans won’t shout Merkel down RIGHT NOW to preserve their country is beyond me. Apparently their low birth rates can now be explained. Their men have lost their testicles. They deserve whatever happens next – bloodbath.
USA citizens, are you taking notes?
Progressivism is the equivalent to chemical castration. Seriously. After years of imbibing continuous progressive indoctrination, they simply dry up and are absorbed, becoming androgynous.
All the talk of equality and I still haven’t seen a woman with a beard , but then I suppose if there wasn’t some kind of goal we would all be lost ?
The Turks and the Germans have always been tight to keep the Russian Bear at bay. This has been true for a thousand years. The best thing that ever happened to Imperial German was the Crimean War…and with Putin back in the Crimea again … yet again Germany aligns itself with what’s left of AttaTurkey. Mohammad Atta-Turkey would appear this go around.
Ergo-Gone and Poopie Pants make for strange bedfellows…neither in their current state…or State even…are bad for Germany. Start hauling in the women and children and solve Western Europe’s birth problem seems to be the plan.
Sorry but this is no Reichstag Fire…Hitler didn’t fire all the Generals and start executing on conspiracies real or perceived on account of 33. Quite the opposite actually.
It’s really hard to imagine Turkey going anywhere but down for the foreseeable future right now. Call it a “Bear Hug” I guess.
If the result is the USA downsizes in Turkey so much the better imho.
Sounds like miraculous news for Greece I might add.
“Never go Full Retard.”
Move along….
http://therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Hitler-Erdogan-large.jpg
What is needed is a Turkish version of Claus von Stauffenberg, a disaffected middle tier officer with enough nuts to perpetrate an Operation Valkyrie against Erdogan.
Okay, so I’m giving him too much credit, but the photo does about as much the same.
I was wondering, since this is looking like a long term thing, what this would put into play. Looks like a bottom floor investment might be leaning toward all those unused boxcars.
So what I’m getting from this is that Erdogan has cut 50,000 government jobs. And the problem is?
(1) Being fired and being arrested are not the same thing… 275 staff in Erdogan’s office? seems like a lot even if that were the total (doubt there aren’t at least as many still there)
(2) How many useless people work at the EU and are going to be fired very soon? A heck of a lot more than 50K
Not saying Erdogan is a saint (he isn’t) — but the irony of the EU staging a coup in a NATO country, getting caught, and then whining about their group getting round up is pretty absurd
Anyway, Mish is doing his media part to focus on Turkey, while Italy and France seem much closer to collapse.
Turkey will quickly become an Islamic Fundamentalist Dictatorship.
I though it would take 14 months, but now I think it will be much quicker.
The U.S. and NATO need to act quickly with negotiations with Putin as Turkey is a lost cause. We need Putin to defeat ISIS and should be willing to recognize the Crimea as part of Russia.
The Neo-Con War Drums are sounding and we need to silence them. The EU does not pay its way and thus should have no say. Only the U.S., the U.K., and France have any meaningful military assets.
Once WikiLeaks publishes what it has, the “False Flag” be revealed.
You are dreaming.
ISIS IS an Obama/Clinton creation. They have resisted every move Russia has made to eliminate them. They have air dropped weapons to them (by mistake of course), they have been supplying them arms through Jordan (only to find that their generals have been selling hem instead), They created a CIA outpost in Libya to funnel collected weapons liberated from Gaddafi’s arsenal to “moderate Syrian rebels”. There have been government documents released that SHOW that ISIS was fulfilling the State Department’s agenda and as such should be supported. The Obama administration will do nothing about ISIS until it becomes advantageous for THEM….not AMERICA or PEACE. Neocons my ass. Progressives will use conservatives willingness to use the military against perceived threat to initiate actions of which they have no intention of EVER winning, and then let it simmer on the back burner, waiting for the next fortuitous moment to create a new crisis. Endless war. Endless crisis’s to take advantage of. Endless chaos to drive more people to their warm assuring arms.
It should be very apparent that after years of strategic losses for “stated” agendas, that there is another “real” agenda, and that is deliberate chaos.
The Obama truly IS the most transparent administration ever, if you are considering their true agenda. Only a person fully immersed in denial could not see this.
Out of chaos will come order , but unfortunately it will be someone else’s .
Bottom line here:
Based on the rumors in western media outlets (who have been horribly wrong so far), who wants to ignore all the problems here in the USA and send their own children off to fight in yet another war we don’t understand?
At this point there is no reason to send anyone anywhere. Any potential opportunistic battlefield is lost. We will have to admit to ourselves that the next war we will fight will occur on our own soil. Hopefully not against our fellow Americans.
Since we have an extradition treaty with Turkey, and Erdogan is asking for Cleric Gulen, it seem to be a good will gesture toward Islam to send Obama in his place.
Come on…show some generosity and Hillary too!
Organ sale coming!
Putin just captured Obama’s queen and is moving in on his king. Wasn’t long ago when Obama cut off America’s chicken supply to Russia and refused to talk with Putin. My oh my. How the worm turns. Now Obama is sucking up to Putin and calling him on the phone. ha. Putin probably tells him to go piss up a rope. Obama has just enough brain cells to read the writing on the wall, perTurkey. The problem is that he can’t concoct a winning strategy farther than 3 days in advance. On a golf day he likely changes his mind 10 times about what to eat for lunch by the time he reaches the 15th green.
The world is becoming a crazy, dangerous place. Look no further than liberal policies that are weakening western countries. There could be a very scary future if things continue to spiral out of control.
Here’s a more complete scorecard:
Bush started wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama promised to end the first (Iraq) immediately, since it was unnecessary – and to end the second (Afghanistan) quickly.
Obama fired the general who was making progress in Afghanistan — because Rolling Stone magazine claimed the general’s staff said mean things. Afghanistan still on going mess.
Obama tried to extend the stay of US troops in Iraq, but was mercifully denied permission by the Iranian puppet regime. Instead, Obama created ISIS – which let him start a second Iraq war, as well as start an all new war in Syria.
Obama also helped Iran lift international sanctions, arm rebels in Yemen and Bahrain. He sent US taxpayer money to a group led by Google employees to rig the Israeli election against US ally Ben Netanyahu — oh, I forgot to mention Obama turned the US-Isreal friendship into a mess first.
Obama tried to stop a rebelion in Egypt, saying Mubarak was a friend — until the Muslim brotherhood took power, and then Obama said Mubarak was no good, Muslim brotherhood were his friends. And then the Egyptian people and their military overthrew Obama’s friends, and now Obama is p!ssed at the Egyptians too. How dare they decide their own fate without his permission.
Around the same time, Obama decided to default on promises to Poland to station anti-ballistic missiles and troops in Poland — that way Iran’s missiles could strike Europe, and the Polish government felt betrayed. Obama said he didn’t want to upset the Russians with defensive missiles — he had much better ways to p!ss of the Russians later.
Then Obama led a war against Libya, somehow leading from behind. Libya is now a failed state, but at least Obama had time to steal Libya’s weapons and ship them to what became ISIS…and all it cost was a few US veterans and an ambassador! Hilary was tired of playing in the shadows, so she resumed her tact of lying about everything.
Tired of constantly losing, Obama announced plans to pivot to China… err, umm, he meant to say “pivot to southeast asia”. No one was fooled by this turn of phrase, so Obama’s press secretary tried “pivot to the Pacific”… still didn’t work. So Obama told the Philipines president to file a lawsuit in the Hague (also not in the Pacific or anywhere nearby) against the Chinese for fixing up some rocks in the middle of the South China sea.
Next, Obama decided to draw a few red lines in Syria. ISIS better not go here, Kurds better not go there, and Assad had better not go anywhere. Everyone promptly stepped over their red lines, and Obama had to draw more and more red lines everywhere. It got so confusing that Russia stepped in to the fray, crushing Obama’s ego in a way Rolling Stone magazine could not express. Western media immediately decided Putin was a mad man, daring to challenge Obama’s carefully crafted bullshit.
That is when Obama got a phone call from his benefactor George Soros. Why not stage a coup in Ukraine, Soros advised. CIA agents went in, and sure enough, Obama found a much better way to p!ss off the Russians. Unfortunately, the Russians had home field advantage and promptly took the productive parts of Ukraine back. They also sent those tapes of Victoria Nuland telling Europe to go F&*k itself, which helped the US maintain alliances with Europe.
More than a few people pointed out that Ukraine is not in China, or Asia, or the Pacific ocean. And China made the first of many announcements that the opinions of the Hague (in Europe) did not apply to China or Asia or really anyone who chose to ignore them the way both political parties in the US had.
Obama’s lawsuit against China failed miserably. The Philippines elected a new president. China said they were going to ignore the European opinion, and several more rocks in the South China Sea are now built up enough to support full time Chinese residents.
Back in the US homeland, Obama started his administration making unsupported allegations against a Boston police officer. It was only a first step toward starting a war between police and the black community — police were attacked in Ferguson MI, in Chicago, Al Sharpton made up some more nonsense in NYC, Florida, Baton Rouge LA, and many many more.
Obama’s supporters started a second front with a race war, and helped bring in countless illegal immigrants. Then lied about it and tried to blur the distinction between legal and illegal immigrants. Obama took another shot at the police, essentially ordering them not to enforce immigration law. Oh, almost forgot to mention the border agent who was killed with a military gun sold to mexican drug gangs by Obama’s first attorney general.
The second attorney general was busy having private meetings on a secluded runway with a person she was investigating, while the head of the FBI made up an excuse about Hilary that defied all legal precedent.
Score so far? Bush started two stupid wars. Obama failed to finish one, restarted another, and started at least five new foreign wars PLUS restarted race wars and anti-police wars back home
And for that, Sweden gave him a Nobel peace prize.
I forgot to mention that Obama tried to start a trade war with Canada over the XL pipeline — because actress Susan Sarandon told him to. Lucky for the USA, Canadians understood Obama is an idiot so they didn’t take Obama’s bait.
Still not sure if Obama won’t start a war with NATO ally Turkey next. Not to claim Erdogan is without fault, but between the EU and Obama’s middle east mess — Turkey was going to be a problem no matter who was running it.
North Korea still unresolved. Part of Japan near Fukashima reactor glows in the dark now, the other part just gave PM Abe enough votes to start building a Japanese military — think of all the new wars that can start once that gets rolling!
Fresh off making ridiculous excuses not to prosecute Hilary for obvious treason and perjury — the US Dept of Judicial cronyism has decided to pick a fight with Malaysia
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-seeks-1-billion-in-asset-seizures-tied-to-malaysian-fund-1mdb-1469019540
The US judicial mess seems to lack jurisdiction over democratic crooks, but somehow they think they have authority over foreign heads of state? Anyway, Obama can now count on Malaysia not to help with his China fighting. The new Phillipines government is already backing away from the Hague lawsuit, and Vietnam continues to cozy up with Russia.
The Brazil olympics start soon — another opportunity for Obama to levy sanctions against allies and reward opponents.
The only continent safe from Obama’s foreign policy (maybe?) is Antarctica, but then penguins don’t get much press coverage
” Actually, The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded by a committee of five persons who are chosen by the Norwegian Storting (Parliament of Norway).” – http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/
Oh…. so the socialist government in Sweden are the ones who give the ridiculous economics prize in memory of Nobel.
the norwegian government actually decides which war monger gets the peace prize? definitely not something they should admit to publicly
Erdogan should get Pelosi to lobby for him: You have to extradite Gulen to see what the evidence is.