Slate writer Franklin Foer says “Vladimir Putin has a plan for destroying the West—and that plan looks a lot like Donald Trump. If the Russian president could design a candidate to undermine American interests—and advance his own—he’d look a lot like Donald Trump.”
Foer went as far as to directly label Trump as Putin’s Puppet.
Continuing the “puppet” meme, Newsweek writer Maxim Trudolyubov noted “Trump has shattered the Republican orthodoxy on Russia, promising to get along with Moscow and heaping praise on Putin.”
Trudolyubov then asked the question Is Trump Putin’s Puppet?
Puppet Theory
Trudolyubov asked the question and never even bothered to answer it.
I will. The question is a joke, and Foer is a fool. No one is pulling Trump’s string.
Indeed, the Democrat and Republican leadership hate Trump precisely because he is no one’s puppet.
Talking with Russia is the smart thing to do. The sanctions on Russia were a huge mistake, but more so for Europe than the US. The US could have and should have opened relations with Iran after 911 but the neocons would have none of it.
The Real Puppet
The irony of the Sate article is Hillary Clinton is the real puppet! For starters, Hillary is a puppet of the progressives, the SEIU and public unions in general, and the warmongers.
The neocons so desperately want a war-puppet they can control, they are willing to overlook the fact that Clinton is a puppet of other groups the warmongers do not support.
For further discussion, please see New Milestone: Trump and Hillary Converge at 58% Unfavorable Rating; Neocons for Hillary.
Musical Tribute
What the Establishment Wants (In Lyrics)
Pull the string and I’ll wink at you, I’m your puppet
I’ll do funny things if you want me to, I’m your puppet
I’ll be yours to have and to hold
Darling you’ve got full control of your puppet
Pull another string and I’ll kiss your lips, I’m your puppet
Snap your finger and I’ll turn you some flips, I’m your puppet
Your every wish is my command
All you gotta do is wiggle your little hand
I’m your puppet, I’m your puppet
I’m Your Puppet
Also consider “Puppet on a String”: Hillary as President would be Catastrophic for the US and the World and this ZeroHedge 2004 Flashback: Elizabeth Warren Describes Hillary Clinton As A Puppet For Wall Street.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
What would be the reaction in America if Russian armored brigades with heavy tanks literally drove right up to the border through Mexico?
What would be the reaction in America if a lawfully democratic elected government in Canada was over thrown with heavy support from Russia and an illiegimate pro Russian government took its place?
Etc.
Why are we f*cling with Russia? We have way more in common than what separates us.
And Trumps sees that.
It’s really about NATO. m The US uses NATO to control Europe… why else would we be involved over 70 years after the end of WWII. There was the cold war, but that ended 35 years ago. Think back when the Soviet Union collapsed, George HW Bush was partying when it fell and never extended an ounce of help. Instead, our military industrial complex took advantage of the occasion, to concentrate its efforts on making the middle east ours. right now, we have all kinds of ‘defensive weapons” in Poland and all along the eastern EU border, in an unstable Turkey, right on Russia’s threshold… Hitlary would certainly escalate the whole thing while she continues to destabilize the Mideast for the gains of her owners, ie Goldman Sachs. Screw that bitch. Trump never expressed anything about NATO, other that that Nato nations should pay their fair share of the “dues”… maybe at that point, Europe would dump NATO as well. I think trump would pull out the missiles, make amends, so we could all trade more freely.
hey, forgot to mention it, but we did defuse a defcon 4 situation with Russia before by removing “defensive missiles”. 1961, JFK, Khrushchev, Cuban Missile Crisis, naval blockade.
Russia was placing missiles in Cuba and the damn thing nearly cause a war until Kennedy found out that Khrushchev was upset about the missiles we had aimed at them in Turkey. Kennedy removed, things settled down.
PCR Link [http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/20/jfk-turned-to-peace-and-was-assassinated/]
Researchers who have investigated the assassination of President John F. Kennedy for 30 or more years have concluded that he was murdered by a conspiracy of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the CIA, and the Secret Service. See for example, JFK And The Unspeakable by James W. Douglass. Shortly before he was murdered, President John F. Kennedy gave an extraordinary speech at American University. In the speech he came out against continuation of the Cold War that risked all life on earth for the benefit of the profits of the military-security complex and the budgets and power of the Pentagon and CIA.
President Kennedy was already marked for assassination. He rejected the Joint Chiefs’ belligerence toward the Soviet Union and their belief that nuclear war could be won. He rejected Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lemnitzer’s “Operation Northwoods,” a plan to carry out false flag terror attacks on Americans and blame Castro in order to create support for a US invasion of Cuba. He rejected US Air Force support for the CIA’s Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. He worked outside of channels with Khrushchev to defuse the Cuban Missile Crisis. The paranoid anti-communists who controlled US military and security forces concluded that President Kennedy did not serve their career interests and was soft on communism and thereby unable to stand up to the Soviet Union. They viewed Kennedy as a threat to US national security that needed to be removed…
“Researchers who have investigated the assassination of President John F. Kennedy for 30 or more years have concluded that he was murdered by a conspiracy of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the CIA, and the Secret Service.”
The evidence pointed directly at Lee Harvey Oswald. GARY Mack, curator of the 6th Floor Museum, who died last year, was certain that JFK was killed by a conspiracy. Over the years he came to realize it was Oswald, alone, who was the assassin.
There was no conspiracy involved with the death of JFK.
Yes.
Remember Russia is part of the West.
And is historically Christian.
They make a much better ally than enemy, especially against the spreading 4GW of Islam.
Mish——- love your writings but this is the craziest idea I have heard from you!
Murray
Murray,
I think your comment has been addressed by the various other comments posted here but I’m intrigued by your saying ‘this is the craziest idea I have heard from you’.
I live in the UK and I am British by birth. As a hopefully objective observer of what I perceive as the insanity of what is going on in the USA, I am saddened by it. Hillary is a liar, she won’t release transcripts of speeches she has given to banks and other financial institutions, has likened Putin to a new Adolf Hitler, it has been shown by the Wikileaks releases that the Democratic nominations has been ‘fixed’ to get Hillary as the nominee, and on and on.
I am reassured by sites such Mish’s that there ARE American people who ‘get it’ and who are NOT subservient to television or Pokemon Go, people who can SEE the bias that’s put on US economic data and who can understand that, on a global basis, the ‘persuasion’ that’s put forward by the US’s representatives benefits only one place – the USA.
The world is bigger than the USA, the USA does NOT operate in a vacuum.
DavidC
In other news, boring loser libertarian candidate what’s his name Johnson thinks he may get an endorsement from Mit Romney. Feel free to puke anytime. And Foreign Policy is in the tank for Hillary this week. Who kooda seen that coming. Fun to watch them squirm but I worry for Trump. They’ve killed for much less.
peter – I worry too. The elite are scrambling right now. They are using their bought-and-paid-for media to negatively smear Trump every which way they can. When you see the neocons lining up behind Hillary, the scare tactics re Trump and Putin – why, it almost makes you think that there’s either going to be a good election-rigging or an accidental assassination in the near future.
Will he be taken out by a crazed illegal or a crazed Muslim? Time will tell.
The funny thing is that none of this is working. In fact, the more they go after Trump, the more people realize what’s happening and they dig in harder.
Maybe the next batch of emails about the Clinton Foundation are being held back as security? “You go after Trump, and these emails are going viral”?
One problem for Johnson: “Mitt ain’t Shit”, and NOBODY likes him.
One problem for the MSM smear-merchants. Their dog is old, tired, and can no longer hunt.
It appears that the neocons have fully taken over the MSM; at every opportunity the anti-Russian propaganda comes forth. I for one don’t want to see WWIII, but it’s going to happen in some form. The elites need a distraction for when the global economy implodes. Nothing will happen until after the election; we have a few more months left.
Also, don’t forget the Third Law of SJW’s:
SJW’s always project.
Hence they accuse Trump of being putin’s puppet, because they themselves are puppetted, as MIsh noted.
Speaking of the Clinton Foundation, has anybody seen the new documentary “Clinton Cash”? 104 minutes of fun! The Clinton’s left the White House near broke, and a few short years later are now worth (don’t quote me) approximately $230 million. Not a bad return!
Man, how could you watch that and still vote for her? Bill Clinton stands up at the DNC and talks about when he first met her. The way I see it is that they both recognized something similar in each other – crookedness. They both value the same things: money and power. A marriage made in?
Here’s the link to the documentary. It describes her dealings with foreign countries while Secretary of State, what foreign governments or corporations hired them to give speeches, how much they got paid, and how, just coincidentally, they got big donations given to the Clinton Foundation from these same corporations or governments.
The last 20 minutes deals with Hillary Clinton allowing Russia to own 20% of U.S. uranium while Secretary of State.
Can you just imagine them ever allowing Trump to win and start investigating this? Wow!
Saw it on youtube the first time it was posted. Haven’t seen dinesh d’souza’s Hillary’s America though. I won’t either… I’d pay a Hillary supporter to go see it if I thought it would do an ounce of good. As far as I’m concerned, for as much as I’ve seen of the DNC they only want women. It isn’t about that anymore… it’s neocon vs thinking person.
My puppet theory: Slate and Newsweek are Shillary’s puppets.
“Here’s how I think it works.
First, harden the narrative that Putin is backing Trump. Time to reach out to prestige media!
Instantaneously and simultaneously, serious chin-stroking erupts in the liberal commentariat concerning the seemingly unhealthy relationship between Putin and Trump.
Carrying the flag are Franklin Foer (New Republic: Putin’s Puppet), Paul Krugman (New York Times: Donald Trump: The Siberian Candidate), Jonathan Chait (New York Magazine: Is Donald Trump Working for Russia?), Daniel Drezner (Washington Post: Is Donald Trump a Putin Patsy?)
Jeffrey Goldberg does the Clinton campaign a solid over at the Atlantic with It’s Official: Hillary Clinton is Running Against Vladimir Putin.
Over in digital media, Talking Points Memo has been pushing the story relentlessly. Most recent iteration: It Can’t Be Dismissed.
What’s interesting to me is that none of these pieces offer conclusive evidence. We are in the zone of those two glorious media and rhetorical exemplars, Peggy Noonan and Donald Rumsfeld.
As in:
‘Is it irresponsible to speculate? It would be irresponsible not to.’
Peggy Noonan, on the Wall Street Journal editorial page, as to whether Fidel Castro used incriminating phone-sex recordings to blackmail President Bill Clinton into returning miracle dolphin lad Elian Gonzalez to his father in Cuba.
‘Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.’
Donald Rumsfeld, on why we shouldn’t worry that UN inspectors found no WMD in Iraq pre-invasion.”
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/07/27/trumputin-and-the-dnc-leaks/
trump to manly for dnc,after lookin at their convention,it’s obvious the dnc has become the gayest most effeminate ever,im waitin for the village people or culture club tribute band,trump ,putin way too masculine for dnc,jeff Epstein,kate perry,beyonce,boy george new face of hopelessly cluesless dem constituentcy
Trump is a borderline personality, narcissistic trait. Speaking from experience, nobody controls such a person….nobody. Putin has no more power over Trump than anyone who read my words.
Can Trump be a great president? Nobody can say for sure, but actually yes, if he survives long enough. For a narcissist, failure is not an option. We already know he can succeed in the toughest city in the world to succeed in and he can run large corporations with some success. A Trump presidency will probably result in actual public works programs that build something, albeit with a lot of debt, but at least we will get something tangible for it. I can live with that.
While all this is happening, perhaps people will start engaging in local politics again. That is the key factor that will return power in this country to the people.
Taperwood – I agree with your assessment. People like this are their own man; Putin would dictate nothing to Trump that he didn’t want. Trump would decide. That’s why the elite hate him so much. He can’t be bought or handled, won’t back down.
He’s skilled at negotiating, making deals, and he gets things done. As you say, at least he likes to build things.
And people say he’s brash, outspoken, rude, condescending, egotistical, blah, blah, blah, but can you imagine anyone else who could have put up with virtually every single media outlet, politician, political pundit hammering him constantly with lies, fabrications, suppositions, and yet he comes back for more? I would have folded my tent long ago.
Like him or hate him, he is the type of person who can meet the elite head on and not flinch, chew them up and spit them out.
Since Foer makes wild assumptions that have no basis in reality – so will I. Foer must be wearing his shoulder blades for a hat.
The dems describe themselves as the ‘Party of Unity’ who ascribe to build bridges of cooperation and trust. Yet it appears by their comments about a Trump/Putin alliance (which is wild speculation) that the dems promote restoring the cold war and leading us into nuclear holocaust.
All of us know that Hitlery is an inveterate warmonger who relishes toppling other sovereign nations and implementing regime change that always end up going awry and creating safe havens for jihad islamic terrorists. Everything Hitlery touched in the ME turned to manure.
Imagine if 2 superpowers like Russia and the USA could work together to solve some of the global problems that we face instead of facing off as enemies. And which of the two has been the predominant provoker in the last several years? How would we like it if Russia planted missiles on the borders of Mexico or Canada or tried to topple the Mexican government and install their own puppet government to their great advantage? Would we tolerate it? Go figure.
Everyday is opposite day in America. Paul Ryan has the nerve to question Trump’s conservative values and the peacenik dems want to perpetuate more conflict and military angst against the Russians.
Stop this merry-go-round of insanity. Let me off.
“Hitlery is an inveterate warmonger who relishes toppling other sovereign nations and implementing regime change that always end up going awry and creating safe havens for jihad islamic terrorists. Everything Hitlery touched in the ME turned to manure.”
But the Clinton’s made a ton of money and so did the Clinton Foundation. It was just and fitting if her Clinton Foundation emails rear their ugly heads, wouldn’t it?
“Imagine if 2 superpowers like Russia and the USA could work together to solve some of the global problems that we face instead of facing off as enemies.”
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I do imagine this, and have questions about both. Does Putin want the Soviet Union, or a Catherine the great Russia. (Big differences, and I tend to think along a Catherine the Great Russia, which makes him a potential partner with a different Europe and US.) Is Putin willing to pull back on his support of Iran, if Trump can find the art of the deal with him?
Trump appears to want to work with Russia, stop the influx of folk from the last empire religion of antiquity, and work with the EU and the ROW as well, but not through global government, just basic trade. Yes, I think the one world Blackbeards have their panties in a bunch.
“The question is a joke, and Foer is a fool.”
Foer is spouting fauxny baloney. I can see right through him. Out and Out propaganda piece. Into the trash it should go.
The most ridiculous thing about this is Russia is far more free than the West and America is today. The average stupid American is clueless.
Slate writer Franklin Foer says “Vladimir Putin has a plan for destroying the West—and that plan looks a lot like Donald Trump.”
It is Hillary’s number that Putin has. She is compromised, as a result of her unauthorized, insecure server.
As for straight, clean, honest elections:
http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/hillary-clinton-finger.jpg
mike,
Best post of the week. God bless your family.
Foer is a perfect fool. The worst thing that could happen to America would be to put the Clinton Crime Syndicate in the White House.
Good for that guy. He had some real good points.
Omce again, you nailed it Mish. Neither Putin not Trump are anuone’s puppet and neither have an agenda that makes people die, get ill or go broke. The Democrat/Social or Liberal Democrat propaganda is reaching Goebbels proportions. Tehir model has failed and its the best they can do. Time for them to stfu.
Seems to me that the Dems are real scared about Trump. I feel they will be proved right. But you never know from sheepies…
Here’s a real crock-O-shit for ya:
http://www.atr.org/full-list-hillary-s-planned-tax-hikes
I agree that it ridiculous to claim Trump is a puppet of Putin’s. That said, I have no doubt that Putin would much rather Trump become president than Clinton. I wouldn’t even be surprised if Putin actually was behind some of the leaks of embarassing hacked DNC email in attempt to help stack the deck in favour of his preferred US presidential candidate. The US has done far worse to influence foreign election outcomes.
Yes, it could be Putin is saying “Get away from our borders or else the Clinton Foundation emails will be released.”
“Talking with Russia is the smart thing to do. ”
Obama found reasons not to listen or talk with Russia even after they positively ID’d the Boston bombing Tsarnaev brothers as terrorists from training camps in Eastern Europe.
The team work of US intel that produced that epic failure now wants to warn us about Trump.
Trump is Hillary’s puppet. And he is programmed to throw the election in the 11th hour.
“Trump is Hillary’s puppet. And he is programmed to throw the election in the 11th hour.”
False.
I’m not a supporter anymore but I do love the guy and loved his ridiculous intro and start to his campaign.
Donald Trump is his own Man and I think that will win him the election.
Simply put he’s not a nut…or maybe just his own nut…whereas the Clintons and their straphangers are clinical psychopaths who are not only morally repugnant to the human race but frankly I think should be arrested and tried for Crimes Against Humanity.
I’m a true believer they simply exist as an “entity” because they murder Americans…as do those who support them.
That they even exist I find repugnant to the human race.
That they are “next in line to run the Country” is the true War on Terror for all Americans as I think they and their cronies have only the singular goal of Death to America.
You won’t see even the idea of Patritiosm represented with that band of raging psychopaths.
“Ask what our Country can do for us” is literally broadcast in broad daylight for the World to see as their reason for why they will win…the New York media adores this like the suicide mission they have put the American Nation on.
“Strength and Honor” for the rest of us.
Move along…
For me it’s uncanny that I get much more accurate media reporting and learn more about what’s going on inside my own country from Russia Today News than I get from the US mainstream media. Freedom in any nation is largely defined by the transparency and coverage of news events by the media within it’s borders. The propoganda we see in the US news has literally gone exponential in the last 15 years. This should be obvious to anyone who has a few years under their belt and pays attention to what goes on around them. Actually for me it’s one of the scariest aspects of life in modern day America. Once you lose a free press it’s basically over. The media is the second final line of defense against tyranny. The final line gets really ugly. That’s why we depend on the media to do it’s job. And they’re failing.
God bless Donald J. Trump and keep him safe.
He’s the only one in political circles who dares to tell the truth.
As evidenced by her speech tonight at the DNC – Hiltlery is an inveterate liar. The biggest laugh of the night was when she said she would make Wall Street pay for her social programs! HA! Wall Street owns Bill and Hitlery lock, stock and barrel. She won’t even release the transcripts to her $225,000 speeches to MULTIPLE Wall Street banks! Wall Street owns her and she’s going to slap a fat tax on them? HA! Does she think we’re a bunch of 3rd graders who just swallow her BS?
Donald J. Trump is America’s final hope. Could he fizzle on us? Sure. There’s always a chance. But we KNOW that Hitlery is a full-blown disaster who would destroy what’s left of the nation.
As concerned Americans who want to leave a nation intact behind for our children we have no choice. Vote Trump.
We should be so lucky: rational and sensible government at last!
Vlad doesn’t have to do a thing. Both parties are already sitting idly by while bankers carry out Lenin’s plan to eliminate capitalism:
“The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.” Vladimir Lenin
A study of history indicates that printing is the best recipe for slowly turning prosperous nations into future banana republics.
If it appears in Slate, you can bet it will be wrong.
Well, as a progressive, I can say that Clinton doesn’t give a damn about progressives. There is no question of progressive strings when there are more powerful entities pulling their own strings. Even the SEIU and unions only get some crumbs that she throws at them once in a while. The real strings are held by the neocons and the Wall St., neoliberals.
That claim illustrates the absolutely brain dead level of discourse in this country. Putin prefers Trump because Trump has said things that indicate he doesn’t want a geopolitical cold war v2.0 with Russia. Period. And, yet, it is the public perception that Trump is the warmonger.
This election year is more idiotic and the bias of the media even more obvious than ever before in my lifetime. If I could do anything to fix that, I’d care. Since there isn’t, I don’t. I just shake my head and watch the idiots scr*w themselves yet again. They get the government they so richly deserve.
The democratic candidate is pro wall street and big business, Democrats claim voting for other candidate will help Russia. The republican candidate is fighting for middle class jobs. When did the two parties switch sides?
Trump is doing his job. Are we divided 50 / 50 yet?
Talk about a puppet; Obama has been so completely outmaneuvered by Putin. Trump is nobody’s puppet. We really need Russia as an ally and I think Trump is the guy to negotiate it. We already know how Hillary’s “reset” worked out.