As expected and predicted in this corner, long ago actually, Turkey Blackmails Germany Over Visas.
Germany has said it will not be “blackmailed” by Turkey after Ankara threatened to renounce its March migrant treaty with the EU unless the bloc granted visa-free travel to Turkish citizens.
The row over the deal came as Berlin and Ankara clashed over a decision by the German authorities not to let Turkey’s president address a pro-democracy rally in Cologne at the weekend by video link. The Turkish foreign ministry on Monday summoned Germany’s charge d’affaires over the issue.
Turkish authorities have accused Germany of not condemning the coup attempt forcefully enough.
Of more immediate concern to Germany, however, is the future of the landmark deal struck in March between Turkey and the EU to curb the flow of migrants reaching Europe across the Aegean Sea.
Under the agreement, Turkey agreed to take back thousands of migrants crossing into Greece, in exchange for sweeteners such as €3bn in EU cash and the promise of short-term travel rights to Europe’s Schengen area for Turkish citizens. Brussels also agreed to reopen accession talks with Ankara over its membership of the EU.
The deal has been highly effective, leading to a sharp drop in the numbers of migrants arriving in Greece and easing the pressure on Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, for whom the influx of asylum-seekers into Germany last year turned into a big political headache.
in an interview with the Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper, the Turkish foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said Turkey might be forced to “renounce” the March agreement if Europe did not move forward with visa liberalisation. “It can be at the beginning of or the middle of October — but we expect a fixed date,” he said.
The argument over the refugee deal comes as Turkish politicians express fury at Germany’s decision not to allow the video link of Mr Erdogan.
Numan Kurtulmus, Turkey’s deputy prime minister, said the speed with which Germany’s highest court had prohibited the live video link was evidence of a “clear double standard”, and said the final verdict went against freedom of speech.
Turkey’s sports minister, Akif Cagatay Kilic, said he wanted to know the “real reason” behind German authorities wanting to prevent Mr Erdogan speaking to his supporters.
Turkey Demands to Know the Obvious
Turkey wants to know the real reason Germany would not let Erdogan address his supporters in Germany.
Let’s turn the tables. Will Turkey let Merkel, president Obama, or anyone else address the citizens of Turkey about Erdogan’s purge of the military, purge of teachers, or takeover of the Turkish press?
It would behoove Merkel to actually take a strong stand, but she cannot. Merkel is in a bed of her own making and hasn’t a clue how to get out of it.
Merkel In Bed With the Devil
I warned early on that Merkel was in bed with the devil, repeatedly.
- March 7: Devil Demands and Receives More Concessions from Merkel: In Bed with a Dictator
- March 9: EU leaders Recoil from Merkel’s Deal With the Devil
- April 20: EU’s Refugee Dilemma: “Growing Panic” on How to Change Terms of Deal with Devil
- May 7: Erdogan “Prince of Europe” Rejects EU Demands to Reform Terrorist Law
Merkel Still Doesn’t Know How to Get Out of Erdogan’s Bed
What’s Merkel to do?
That question is easy to answer. Do nothing and hope the problem goes away, the same way she has addressed nearly every problem for years.
However, that tactic won’t work this time.
Refugee Math Considerations for Merkel
- Turkey has 2.7 million Syrian refugees who want to make to Germany for free handouts.
- The EU is already choking on migrants and terrorist activity caused by migrants.
- There are another 79+ million Turkish citizens, many of whom just might be fed up enough with the dictatorship of Erdogan to flee, if they only had a Visa or EU membership.
- The median age in Turkey is 30.2 and the youth unemployment rate is 19.1%. A huge chunk of the millennials will want to leave for sure.
- Even if a mere 5% of Turkish citizens want to flee, that’s another 4 million or so refugees pouring into Europe.
Attempting to fix a refugee problem by allowing visa-free migration to millions of unemployed and potential Islamic radicals is pure insanity.
But that’s Merkel’s plan, and she does not know how to change it.
Heck, despite the insanity of it all, it appears she is still happy with the idea, ignoring the fact numerous EU countries will not go along with the deal.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
The relation between Turkey and Germany / Europe was based on blackmail all along, It’s just that it used to be hidden behind agreements and a diplomatic facade instead of being laid bare for the world to see as it is now, This being said, Merkel and the vast majority of Germans are beyond salvation. They deserve everything that is happening to them now…
Seriously. The time has come for Merkel to gracefully bow out for health reasons or to spend more time with the family. She’s dug a hole so deep for herself that John Deere couldn’t pull her out. For the good of the Deutsche Heimat it’s time for her immediate exit. It would be best for all if she didn’t have to be pushed out of the nest. But if push comes to shove, so be it.
I thought the American leaders were anti-patriotic. But Merkel makes our leaders look like Audie Murphy. No idea how she’s lasted as long as she has. It must be vergangenheitsbewaeltigung. Sad for a people once so proud.
More then Merkle must bow out. Think of the article Mish quoted.
Some 40,000 Muslims waving Muslim flags and Erdogan supporters in a “pro democracy” rally.
Wow, beyond parody. Every rational cell in the human brain has a short circuit. Islam is THE LEAST deocratic political system in earth. Erdogan is an Islamic dictator, currentl engaged in a pre-planned purge of the media, the military, the legal system, and the education structure.
The only rational answer I see is to say this, round up every ” pro democracy” Turkey loyalist and send them home with a very strong list of what will happen if Erdogagan reacts wrongly, and a few carrots if he does exactly as told and immediately pulls all “inspections” and outside of the nuclear air force and disband them and the Erdogan sanctioned protesters. (Does anyone think those protesters operate without Erdogan’s Suport in the middle of his purge)
Democracy is merely a tool for Muslims to punish, and ultimately defeat the West.
Gee
He wouldn’t even have had to ask Justin come-on-down Trudeau.
Meanwhile here in California:
The California State Assembly is to consider a bill Monday declaring August “Muslim Appreciation and Awareness Month,” in accordance with a resolution proposed by Assemblyman Bill Quirk (D-Hayward), and supported by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).
So the idea is to encourage Muslims to appreciate the US and help Muslims become more aware of US culture.
Right?
Maybe it is part of the Secondary Housing of International Terrorist Extremism ( SHITE) initiative, they always claimed the psychiatric liability of foreign citizens could not be guaranteed , only purged once expressed.
Germany will become an Islamic state simply because any German who resists will be put in prison.
As A German friend explained to me last week…as a German, if you voice disapproval, much less resist the immigration invasion, you are simply called a nazi. NO different that in America to be called a racist, except in Europe they have resorted to criminalizing such “hate speech”. They are building a war of ALL wars. Not nation against nation, but people against people. Chaos with no defining borders, language or even citizenship. Division on ALL standards. It’s looking more like mass suicide everyday.
Germany should simply respond.
We will build a wall.
We will deport.
And we will arm the Kurds – in Iraq, in Syria and in Turkey to the hilt.
Indeed. At least it’s a start.
The Germans have forgotten how even to arm themselves. And ditto for the rest of Europe.
In that corner of the world, Russia has weapons and land, the Muzzies have soldiers and oil, and the Europeans have debt, and a bunch of geriatrics thumping their cane in support of ever growing governments robbing barren the few poor saps still left of fighting age and spirits.
Now, who looks to be the two wolves, and who the sheep; when those three sit down to vote over who to have for dinner?
Don’t be to sure: Even in France, a larger percentage of the working-age population (25-55) goes to work than in the USA [according to OECD statistics for employment participation rates]. For other northern countries the difference is much greater, despite all the immigrants and welfare.
Do all those debt-ridden eighty year olds produce anything? The EU (and especially the northern tier) and Japan traditionally have trade surpluses, apparently making stuff that others want to buy. The USA has had a trade deficit at least since the early seventies, exporting dollars for real things, despite the fact that they are resource rich (in contrast to Japan and Europe, which import all their basic materials and energy).
Despite being economic basket cases, people in Japan or Denmark are healthy and well-to-do, live longer and are more educated than in the USA, have an envious social and capital stock … what’s not to like.
It’s not so much about not to like. Japan, and Europe, are by no means horrendous places to spend time in as of now. Quite the opposite, comparatively speaking. But they’re disappearing as we know them.
Japan just because. Or perhaps to prove Mishima right after all. Europe because they are again being overran. Just like the Romans were. Even if 100% of their ever dwindling working age population goes to work pushing paper for some government or, or collecting subsidies to schlep it around some farm, so what? That’s still no match for a rapidly growing, increasingly confident, militant horde amassing on their borders.
Turkey is offering voting rights and citizenship to Syrian refugees. If you give them all visa’s, you’re looking at 79 million Turks and, on top of that, the possibility of the 3.5 million Syrian refugees (with Turkish passports) you were trying to avoid.
Yes precisely
Wondering what one gets to vote on that actually matters in Erdoganistan…
Same as here, and anywhere. You get to go through a silly ritual, designed to legitimize the ruling class.
Democracy was a useful institution back when legitimacy was generally seen to derive from hereditary privilege. Or divine ordination. But it’s merits never extended beyond delegitimizing the rulers, the Popes and nobles.
Now, society has been rearranged for so long, that the ruling class are all drawn from those whose ancestors have benefited disproportionately from democracy. And hence, just like the Pope and nobles before, they keep yapping as if their particular excuse for privilege, is somehow less nonsensical than those of the ones that came before them. Which it, of course, is not.
Do you happen to have a negative interest mortgage calculator? w
You couldn’t accuse Erdogan of not being able to make the most of his opportunities.
seems Merkel is being mesmerized by his powers of persuasion.
“Give me the money …..or else”
It sounds like something Putin would say and do.
Maybe Putin is behind this.
War is coming. Like most wars the events that set them off will be totally unexpected. It will be a race between massive civil unrest and outright war. Not sure who will win the race.
Both could happen simultaneously. The French helped colonists in America defeat the British.
The German people will not be able to mount any serious resistance to Islam. They are too politically correct, weak, old, stupid and disinterested to form any kind of opposition. Those that oppose Merkel will be prosecuted for “hate speech”. Merkel and Erdogan are really not that far apart if their understanding of democracy is concerned.
For Merkel there a 2 options. Option A is grant visas to all Turks and B is not to grant visas.
The consequences are as follows:
A: Turks, Kurds and anybody that can get a hold of a (forged) Turkish passport will invade Germany. Other Schengen countries will close their borders or outright exit the EU.The EU will fall apart while Kurds, Turks and various other Islamic factions will bring their fights to Germany. Within 10 years Germany will resemble Ukraine or Libya.
B: Erdogan gets mad for not getting visas and opens the flood gates for all migrants. Within weeks millions of migrants will overrun the EU and Merkel will have to make though decisions about border control, upper migration limits and forced repatriation.Other EU countries will distance themselves from Germany and close their borders to the general chaos doesn’t spill over onto their territory. Some EU exits might follow.
Summary Merkel did a great job destroying the EU and Europe. Couldn’t have planed that better if she wanted too.
I guess it will come down to EU having a good reason to take sides in Turkey if/when the country falls apart… to ensure return of a newer Syrian/Turkish exodus , sweetened eventually with visa free for a new western puppet government.
I don’t think EU has any options left as the current project is a no go, unless Syria goes into reconstruction somehow under a combined umbrella, and Erdogan backs down to western involvement. Neither of the latter are likely, but an open road to Damascus ( and beyond) is a long sought western objective
The return of refugees to Turkey seems non existent, the only reason the flow has slowed outwards is because Turkey ordered its side to patrol, and because Austria et al closed their borders.
Erdogan does not have to encourage refugees to leave, he only has to not stop them.
Meanwhile Brussels has dafted new legislation allowing an expansion of family reunifications… source is a bit sensationalist but the only one found :
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/695449/Migrant-crisis-Brussels-EU-commission-migration-Europe-Germany
During the coming election cycle right wing or EU-critical governments will gain control in several EU countries (France, Austria, Netherlands, Italy). They will close their borders, cut benefits to migrants and, if necessary, leave the EU. Then Merkel can create her Islamic utopia with whoever is foolish enough to stay.
I guess we would be seeing a lot more Germans outside of Germany …
Soon everyone will say, “I am Trump”
Actually, the great majority of immigrants from beyond Europe have come due to treaties stipulating humanitarian grounds, marriage partners, family reunification, legalization of long-time illegals. There are villages in Turkey where the majority of residents have moved to Europe.
The irony is that many European countries were paying their own natives a bonus to encourage them to emigrate in the fifties, only to have greedy corporations import migrants in the seventies as cheap labour. These corporations actually recruited illterates from the hinterlands in the hope that they would be incapable of pressing for labour rights.
A couple weeks ago during the “fake” coup. Mish supported Erdogen and “democracy” etc and now he is calling the same guy a scum bag…. nice flip flop
Don’t remember Mish supporting Erdogan , and he has been neutral on the coup/democracy ???
You are bleeping crazy if you think I ever supported Erdogan on anything
The EU is going to war. With each other, with Islam. They are going to war.
Here’s Merkel’s chance: She revokes border passage and VISA’s because Erdogan has revoked democracy. Then she digs in on variants of “it’s Erdogan’s fault that his own people suffer the tragedy of being in his own country.” Oughta fly, no?
It would I think, but is contra ft y to every act and utterance she has done or spoken. To paraphrase Obama’s. Markist priest of 20 years, ” Merkel’s folly, coming home to roost.”
Little phone, fat fingers, but message conveyed I hope.
No one has come up with an effective way to separate the sensible Syrians from the predators. Turkey keeps the Syrians in camps, so they can’t cause trouble for the Turkish people. Europe allows them to wander around, which allows terrorists and rapists to prey upon the people.
Europe can do realistic background checks on maybe a few thousand Syrians per year. There is no way to vet millions upon millions in a short period of time.
If Europe really wants to help the Syrians and other Mid Easterners, Europe should stop bankers from printing food inflation. Then they could stay at home and eat.
Actually, the EU cut subsidies to refugee programs in Turkey the Spring of 2015 before this deluge started. They would be cheaper off paying Turkey off to keep them there — this deluge only started after Merkel said welcome here because Turkey complained that they were doing all the heavy lifting (true).
Of couse all parties would benefit if they stopped blessing the USA pretend coalition and had supported Assad and secular parties and regimes elsewhere in the first place. That would have saved Syria and hundreds of thousands of Syrians, including the Christian communities (some still speaking Aramaic, the language Jesus spoke) that formed one of the cradles of Western civilization and have lasted two millenia despite a hostile environment, but is being expunged in our present enlightened age.
The USA has been bombing the Syrian infrastructure (to hinder the government) instead of ISIS (that’s why they have made no inroads on ISIS) and is the party that has been using Sunni extremism as a lever for regime change (for decades: Sadam Hussein was being paid by the CIA in the seventies to foment regime change).
The most humane thing the EU could do is to shoot illegal invaders on sight — it sounds brutal, but it would save thousands of people now drowning in the Mediterranean and put an end to the whole problem right quickly. There are no refugees coming in from war-torn areas that have not first crossed intermediate areas that are safe.
“Gentle physician – putrid wounds”