The EU is in total disarray if not outright panic after calling an emergency meeting regarding Donald Trump.
Amusingly, the UK, France, and Hungary snubbed the meeting. And over the weekend Donald Trump met with Nigel Farage, poking a fiery stick right in the EU’s eyes.
Trump’s presidency is off to a great start.
Please consider Britain and France Snub EU’s Emergency Trump Meeting
Britain and France on Sunday night snubbed a contentious EU emergency meeting to align the bloc’s approach to Donald Trump’s election, exposing rifts in Europe over the US vote.
Hailed by diplomats as a chance to “send a signal of what the EU expects” from Mr Trump, the plan fell into disarray after foreign ministers from the bloc’s two main military powers declined to attend the gathering demanded by Berlin and Brussels.
Mr Trump at the weekend met Nigel Farage, the populist Brexit campaigner who has become the first foreign politician to meet the future US president. Carl Bildt, the former Swedish prime minister, tweeted: “If Trump wanted to look statesmanlike to Europe, receiving Farage was probably the worst thing he could [do].”
British foreign secretary Boris Johnson dropped out of the Brussels meeting, with officials arguing that it created an air of panic, while French foreign minister Jean-Marc Ayrault opted to stay in Paris to meet the new UN secretary-general. Hungary’s foreign minister boycotted the meeting, labelling the response from some EU leaders as “hysterical”.
Mr Johnson’s refusal to attend will add to an already difficult relationship with his German counterpart Frank-Walter Steinmeier, who has told colleagues that he cannot bear to be in the same room as the British foreign secretary.
Other European leaders have openly criticised the incoming president. European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker last week accused Mr Trump of ignorance. “We must teach the president-elect what Europe is and how it works. I believe we’ll have two years of wasted time while Mr Trump tours a world he doesn’t know.”
Protests in Germany
EU Response to Trump
- UK, France, Hungary refuse to attend Emergency demanded by Berlin
- Nigel Farage met Trump becoming the first foreign politician to meet the future US president
- Protests in Germany
- Infighting between Boris Johnson and German counterpart Frank-Walter Steinmeier
- Steinmeier tells colleagues that he cannot bear to be in the same room as the British foreign secretary.
- Hungary’s foreign minister labeled the emergency meeting “hysterical”.
Jean-Claude Juncker lectures Trump on “what Europe is and how it works.”
Trump’s presidency is off to a great start.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Trump enters free trade agreement with the UK.
Trump normalizes trade with Russia.
Trump invites any country that leaves the EU to join also.
Trump tells NATO they are going to FULLY pay for their own defense from now on.
That will teach the president-elect what Europe is and how it works.
What we’re watching is Finance overseeing the disintegration of every western institution and national economy. Oh sure, there’ll probably be a lot of jobs created for a season until some idiot pol starts a brush fire in eastern Europe someplace and the vulnerabilities to conventional war that are inherent in NATO and any other alliance gets dramatized. All of that rather than integrate monetary gifting into the present economies and money system. How pathetic, unconscious and theoretically pig headed will those who insist that some tired old orthodox remedies that haven’t actually worked for the last 150 years or so be viewed historically???
That is if a few printing presses survive the mayhem.
The question must be asked: Do you go after the institutions alone or the monopolistic power behind it all first? Mankind is largely unconscious (there are a few who are consciously sold out for destruction [Bannon] and they are at the right hand of Trump) We are in perilous times.
I think we should ship Harry Reid over to the EU on a lend-lease program. Then he can teach Brussels how to masterfully reproduce the unintelligible Whine and how to double down on doing little to nothing while annoying everyone.
Man, I was so pissed at Reid for his comments on the election, I spent 30 minutes straight tweeting replies to all the crap he (er, his interns) spews on Twitter.
gerald williams said:
No Lend-Lease. We’ll just give him to them; no charge; we pay shipping. Ownership transfers upon shipment. Return Policy: No returns.
Tom Jericho said:
Excellent comment. I guess it can’t be said more precisely with less words.
David Hannum said:
Amen! The Brussels Eurocrats are going fully retard…Deplorable 🙂
Mr.Farage can explain what is EU better than anyone.Very honest and intelligent man.
Better yet, Merkel, Holland and a few others in a snit (maybe with Turkey) throw the USA out of NATO.
Chris Golightly (@CRGolightly) said:
London Financial Times 14th November 2016: A private report by Ernst & Young has been circulated among UK lawmakers and government estimating 83,000 related job losses over the next seven years if euro-denominated clearing is forced out of London into continental Europe.
The report, seen by the Financial Times, assesses which areas of a prized part of City business would be most affected by the EU adopting a hardline approach to Brexit. The overall figure is not far from the 100,000 job losses previously estimated by the London Stock Exchange Group.
Those jobs were going. More slowly, but going. Be careful what you read. The FT is behind the curve.
Stanislas Yassukovich is worth reading, a business creator, European.
The City will shrink as will that element of GDP. With appropriate incentives the City will grow substantially after receding first.
The FT, good luck with that. They do not speak for the creators nor represent them. A massive amount of creativity in the City will be apparent in a few years. The FT doesn’t report on any of it. Behind the curve and a mouthpiece for the EU status quo.
If the UK offers enough corporate tax breaks, there could actually be net job gains. Wouldn’t that make the naysayers silly?
Fish is correct. I read in the financial press some years ago that automation and communication made possible by modern technology will remove more jobs from the UK banking sector in the next ten years than in the 200 years that preceded it. To some extent, the FT seems to be obfuscating an inevitable labor mark phenomenon (job loss caused by technological advancement) by conjoining it to a separate action, moving the financial hub from London to the continent.
Question: Would a new European financial hub remain as such if the whole system (EU, ECB, support mechanisms, etc.) became insolvent?
Bonus question: Which side, London or EU, is more likely to go bust first? (hint: in which camp is Greece?)
Trump election has already had a positive effect on events in Syria, looks like Obama and Hillary have given up on supporting the terrorists:
Front-running Trump policy, so they can claim some credit?
Hillary was going to be the EU connection. I wonder if the Saudis and Qatar are demanding a refund?
You damn well better believe the Saudi and Qatar governments want a refund! They paid to play and now they have Trump on the other end of their phone calls.
“We must teach the president-elect what Europe is and how it works. I believe we’ll have two years of wasted time while Mr Trump tours a world he doesn’t know.”
I believe Trump has no interest how Europe functions. He does it the American way. Like it or not. Might be that Europeans should pay attention how things work in the USA.
BTW, Germany has predicted that the so called immigrants cost the country 100 Billion euros by 2020. I wonder how much after that?
I see something coming to an end very soon. And that’s not going to be USA or Donald Trump.
hehe, I absolutely LOVED to see the press quoting President-elect Trump’s statement that he made during the campaign, “Belgium is a village somewhere in Europe”. By these words, Mr. Trump unwittingly cut the whole Brussels / EU / belly of the beast locus of this revitalized Communist empire down to size! Even if President Trump will often be factually incorrect on many topics during his first term, and at other times, act like something of a bulldozer, I hope that his underlying message shines brightly to give freedom-starved people everywhere a taste of hope.
Isn’t J-C J the guy who said that if it is serious, you have to lie. So Ace start lying. Remember J-C J, the shining light of Trump’s campaign was ‘America First’.
The EU also forgot Sunday was REMEMBRANCE DAY.
I would not expect French and British ministers to be anywhere except at home those days unless there is a real, real problem.
Germany et al are clueless calling a meeting that day unless it’s totally critical.
All Europeans are invited to the “Exit” party – present members: UK, USA. We are seeking to grow!
Czechs not worried too. I just don’t see a French foreign minister going on Remembrance Sunday. The day is too important to France & GB. A dumb day to choose unless a critical matter. Even I know that.
You have to make markets work. They used to mostly work back before fixed capital appreciation costs got so high due to technology and technology’s efficiencies wed to profit making systems also reduced individual incomes. And now AI is going to reduce the latter much much faster so that almost no businesses will be able to survive due to the erosion of effective demand. Social Credit, not socialism and not capitalism, but an integration of the best aspects and intentions of both is the only way to have a dynamically stable equilibrium. Brexit and Trump’s election were both healthy expressions of the desire for freedom and prosperity (although the tone and mindset of many of those who voted for both were the antithesis of healthy and/or gracious points of view).
So do we insist that markets still clear even after 80+ years of them not doing so and the costs of debt and all of the development we see growing up all around us continually increasing?
Or do we come off our high horses and hobby horse orthodoxies and do the wise and survival thing?
Doug Thorburn said:
Trump blowing up the establishment is looking better and better to me. Nigel Farage is one of the most libertarian anti-statist politicians and Jean-Claude Juncker is a full-on alcoholic (a bit of evidence: any time you see alcoholism in print it’s already obvious to a number of journalists and observers, which occurs only after decades of addictive drinking). http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10929427/Fears-over-Jean-Claude-Junckers-drinking.html
Really, excessive drinking and chain smoking are Juncker’s worst vices (that make the press)?Those facts only make me wonder about the real dirt of the EU elites, still hidden from view, whom the world thinks are the brain trust of Europe. Oh yes, Europe will fall hard – soon, I hope.
The EU has every intention of weaponising access to the single market. It will be used to force compliance to the EU way else no access to the market.
400M people of the EU are a tool to be used to achieve the result. It’s a long game and the US, UK will have to play clever or suffer. Nothing will be allowed to stop the project becoming dominant.
Largest single market, 2nd largest military, dominant in world trade regulation.
The hammer and sickle represent harmonisation under the EU, as was attempted under the Soviets. You will, in time, also comply.
The second largest joke. The Russians would, as Patton said, go through them like crap through a goose.
The Hungarians labelled the meeting “hysterical”, not the French.
That the Germans don’t realise the importance of Remembrance Sunday is scary.
What French or UK Foreign Minister would rush to that meeting and be seen away that day unless absolutely critical.
It is an important day. Even I know that to be so.
If the Germans do realise the importance of that day then Trump must really be their bogeyman. They are scared.
THIS IS WHY I NEVER VOTE.
First full Trump interview:
Trump, on pledge to appoint special prosecutor to investigate Clintons, says “I don’t want to hurt them. They’re good people”
SHOW’S OVER FOLKS IT’S BACK TO THE SAME OLD SAME
PS. He may be just saying this until he gets elected so she won’t be pardoned by Obama. (one can live in hope)
Campaign was all politics and so was that statement. Trump means business and every statement is calculated. He’s said he wants to talk to Comey – that’s the key. Would like to be the fly on the wall there.
Tim Wallace said:
He does NOT need a “special prosecutor”. He now has the Justice Department. And Obama WILL pardon her, and THAT will end Chelsea’s political dreams. Appropriate.
If nothing happens to Crooked Hillary before Obama leaves office, how can he pardon her?
Will Obama tell his lackeys in the JD to charge Hillary, just so he can pardon her?
I don’t think so.
Ron J said:
“If nothing happens to Crooked Hillary before Obama leaves office, how can he pardon her?”
The same way Ford pardoned Nixon, who had not been charged with any crime.
Yes Ford did that, but was it legal, or another over-reach of presidential power?
No one has ever bothered to challenge it. Apparently Nixon’s enemies were satisfied with his disgraceful resignation.
Ford used as his excuse for pardoning Nixon the SCOTUS decision in Burdick vs US (1915). However, in that case the court did not answer the question of whether someone can be pardoned before they are convicted.
Tony Bennett said:
FWIW, I watched Rudy Guiliani Thursdayish. He was asked point blank about investigating the Clinton Foundation. Said it would be wrong not investigate as it would set bad precedent for future “Foundations”.
Rudy odds on favorite to become the next Attorney General.
I expect an investigation … which will result in slap on the wrist for Clintons … with guidelines set forth to prevent future pay for play scams.
Trump is unlikely to push certain agenda until he is in the office. He can’t even put down the riots and Obama does not appear to care.
If Trump prosecutes Killary I believe, my opinion, it will only make things more difficult working with the Republicans and President Trump. The Republicans and Trump need all the help they can get, from everyone. The entire theme of this administration is, “Lets’ make America great again”.
Trump said what he had to during the campaign and will continue to do that. He will talk to Comey and others, find out what really happened, assess the publics tone (who may very well just feel sorry for the old bag at this point) and do what politicians do.
Trump likely won’t do much to affect the outcome, at least publicly and directly. But the last thing Trump needs is help from clowns who he has fundamental disagreements with. In a way, Trump has divided the country, in a good way: we now know who the clowns are and who to ignore. What’s incredibly funny, is watching people like Wolf Blitzer who apparently thinks he still sits on a throne of some kind.
Stuki Moi said:
Germany needs to just leave already. While Merkel is currently acting as some sort of Queen of the EU, that is only because the rest of a clowns are to hopeless to be trusted with anything at all, including a booze bottle.
Germany is increasingly underwriting the whole charade, and while it’s banks are on the hook for a lot they, unlike their counterparts in most of the West, aren’t calling the shots over there. Germany is perfectly capable of hosting world beating industry even absent the ever increasing over indebted, under performing silliness that is the EU. They should just walk, tell their banksters to stuff it, and let the rabble find their own way in an increasingly multi polar world. Anything less will just drag Germany right down into the mud with the rest of them.
Tim Wallace said:
Isn’t it amazing how people keep underestimating Trump?
James Greenberg said:
Ron J said:
European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker last week accused Mr Trump of ignorance. “We must teach the president-elect what Europe is and how it works.”
Trump knows Europe isn’t working. It’s why Brexit happened.
Tony Bennett said:
Trump was born in the Queens and had to fight (and beat) the Manhattan snobs/elites.
Juncker and the rest of the European aristocracy are in for an butt kicking.
Trump will DOMINATE in any meeting as POTUS.
Michiel Takens said:
The european political landscape is changing rapidly. People are fed up with the ruling elites in Brussels and elsewhere, But the establishment over here contains a lot of tentacles in every corner of our continent to flatten any alternative politicial movement. But the strong elixer brewing in Obelix’ vessel will hopefully have new movement break through!
Frau Merkel (from the former GDR) is not welcome anymore at the CSU party congres in the mighty state of Bayern. “Wir schaffen es” will be Merkel’s beginning of the end in december 2017.
AfD took a great deal of the votes in Brandenburg/Berlin. And is climbing in the polls as the established parties SPD and CDU decline.
Rajoy leads a minority government with a tolerate support of a part of the PSOE, the other part is in straight opposition. LOL, but reality. From now on Rajoy needs to negociate with right and left, not his strongest point. Podemos will slowly but steadily grow.
In France Hollande will be wiped out in 2017. I doubt rightwing populist Sarkozy will gain enough electorate to keep FN from the victory.
In Italy Renzi will probably step down when the December Referendum outcome will be a strong NO. Polls indicate that the Italians are fed up with the establishment in Rome and their ties to the Maffia and corrupt banksters. And don’t forget the mesh/debt Mr. Berlusconi left a time ago.
So it could mean Europe’s economies no. 1,2 and 4 could/should decide to blow up the bureaucracy in Brussels, dismantle the ECB including its toilet paper called “euro”, QE, NIRP and restore their national integrity and give all former “make Europe great again” leaders a single spacecraft ticket to the planet Mars (although we Europeans still need to learn how to make a soft landing over there. LOL)
In the Netherlands in March 2017 parlementary elections will be held. The current coalition of “socialist” PvdA and neoliberals VVD is terribly unpopular and will be wiped out. In particular the clueless socialist PvdA will lose propably 60% of its seats in the House of Representatives.
The polls indicate a neck on neck race between the neoliberals of Prime Minister Rutte’s VVD and Geert Wilders’ populist PVV party. People are fed up with immigration, too much austerity (not affecting the rich), corrupt banksters and CEOs, too much “law and order” from Brussels and Prime Minister Rutte ignoring the clear 60% NO in the Consulting Referendum with regard to the Ukrain Association Treaty.
The establishment in Europa is on the edge of collapse. Trumps’ election is dramatically confusing, panicking and upsetting the establishment. But the Signal from over the Atlantic was terribly CLEAR!
Regards from the Netherlands.
Tony Bennett said:
“And over the weekend Donald Trump met with Nigel Farage, poking a fiery stick right in the EU’s eyes.”
DJT knew exactly what he was doing and how it would be perceived.
The Donald’s technique seems to include a large part of tricking his opponents into underestimating him. Then they are so surprised when they get whipped.
The leaders in the EU aren’t too bright: Trump wins again!
I hope Obama is right about the “threat” to globalism from White European nationalists !!
Obama & Tsipras two globalist antichrist marxists.
” Obama warns against ‘a crude sort of nationalism’ taking root in the U.S.
ATHENS — President Obama warned Tuesday that Americans and people around the world “are going to have to guard against a rise in a crude sort of nationalism, or ethnic identity, or tribalism” taking root amid the populist movements that are gaining currency around the world.
Speaking at a joint news conference with Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras by his side, Obama refrained from criticizing President-elect Donald Trump directly as he discussed the impact of his electoral victory last week. But the president made it clear that he sees a dark side to the kind of populist movements Trump’s campaign embodied — ideals that other conservative leaders are advocating in Europe and elsewhere. ”
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