The Washington Post stepped well over the line of questionable reporting today, venturing deep into a McCarthy-style smear campaign against hundreds of allegedly “fake news” sites accused of being under control of, or influenced by Russia.
Ironically, the Washington Post headline, Russian Propaganda Effort Helped Spread ‘Fake News’ During Election, Experts Say reads like it a “fake news” supermarket tabloid.
The article, written By Craig Timberg, is even worse. It cites anonymous researchers, who propose a Russian fake news team may have delivered the election to Donald Trump.
The article asks Could better Internet security have prevented Trump’s win?.
The researchers blame an “online echo chamber” where some players were knowingly part of the propaganda campaign, while others were merely “useful idiots”.
“The way that this propaganda apparatus supported Trump was equivalent to some massive amount of a media buy,” said the executive director of PropOrNot, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid being targeted by Russia’s legions of skilled hackers. “It was like Russia was running a super PAC for Trump’s campaign. . . . It worked.”
That’s pretty damn amusing. The Washington Post just handed over the website of PropOrNot to those damn Russians (not that they didn’t know it already).
ZeroHedge was on The List at PropOrNot along with many other names you will recognize including that bastion of perpetual right-wing, Republican propaganda, Naked Capitalism (Hint – that was sarcasm).
I failed to make the grade. This post just might do it. Courtesy of ZeroHedge, here is the highlighted list with some sites that many of you will recognize.
“McCarthy would be proud,” commented ZeroHedge. Indeed. I gathered a collection of tweets on the article.
Collection of Tweets on Washington Post
Smear Campaign
The Washington Post article is nothing more than a McCarthy-style smear campaign against sites that are anti-Hillary, anti-war, or pro-Russia.
No evidence was provided. The authors of “the list” remain anonymous, purportedly out of fear of Russian hackers, who have ZeroHedge and others under their control.
Don’t worry, it’s not McCarthyism. They are merely calling for “formal investigations by the US governments” because they “strongly suspect individuals violated the Espionage Act, the Foreign Agent Registration Act, and other related laws“.
ZeroHedge, Yves Smith at NakedCapitalism, Charles Hughes Smith at OfTwoMinds, Alex Jones at InfoWars, David Stockman, Lew Rockwell, and many others are suspects.
How did I miss being on the list? Should I be pleased or disappointed?
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Scratch a democrat and you get a fascist.
And I use that term correctly.
Everything for the state. Nothing outside the state.
national socialism is not much different than international socialism
So very true. EU the same.
> Mish > > I can¹t tell you how much I was disappointed to have not made the list of > honor. > > bob > > mishgea posted: “The Washington Post stepped well over the line of > questionable reporting today, venturing deep into a McCarthy-style smear > campaign against hundreds of allegedly “fake news” sites accused of being > under control of, or influenced by Russia. Ironically, ” >
man – still out here doing it but can’t even make this last, damnit! What a bummer…..
You claim the article only relies on anonymous sources, yet named individuals and groups are quoted as sources in the first few paragraphs.
““They want to essentially erode faith in the U.S. government or U.S. government interests,” said Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who along with two other researchers has tracked Russian propaganda since 2014. “This was their standard mode during the Cold War. The problem is that this was hard to do before social media.”
Watts’s report on this work, with colleagues Andrew Weisburd and J.M. Berger, appeared on the national security online magazine War on the Rocks this month under the headline “Trolling for Trump: How Russia Is Trying to Destroy Our Democracy.” Another group, called PropOrNot, a nonpartisan collection of researchers with foreign policy, military and technology backgrounds, planned to release its own findings Friday showing the startling reach and effectiveness of Russian propaganda campaigns.”
Where the F did I say “only” anonymous sources. The jackasses who made the list were the anonymous source, and WaPo admitted as such.
Sheesh. Can you read?
PropOrNot…odd that the domain was created in August 2016 and registered through Domains by Proxy.
“They want to essentially erode faith in the U.S. government”
Not much effort required there.
The alternative media now exposes the “other side” of the controlled message spewed by the six major corporations that supply 90% of what Americans see, read, and hear and they REALLY don’t like that. They are losing their “kingmaker” status. Our mainstream “free press” no longer acts as anything more than government press release transcribers and status quo maintainers for an oligarchy that owns both them and our government.
“Now [the United States is] just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president. And the same thing applies to governors and U.S. senators and congress members. So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.” – Jimmy Carter in 2015
Hi Phil.
I saw an interesting cartoon that had a picture of Hillary Clinton. The caption was “Everyone I Don’t Like is a Russian Hacker”.
Did she mean she likes everyone unless or until it is evident they are Russian Hackers? Was it satire that stated she uses “Russian Hackers” as a scapegoat for news she finds unfavorable? Or is she trying to convince the gullible so she can gain by their trusting stupidity?
I believe the latter is true and I honestly don’t care what she thinks or decides to lie about. She is one person and I’ve been surrounded by liars my entire life. Not everyone, but some were effective and vicious, like Hillary Clinton. Effective liars can’t function successfully without gullible and willing stooges. Some are willing flunkies. Some are sociopaths or psychopaths. Some are just blowing with the wind and are afraid they will be on the receiving end if they stand up to the liar (who is usually a bully: aka sociopath or psychopath – Sociopaths lie but might feel bad about it occasionally. Psychopaths have fun lying and causing pain in others.)
What bothers me is that this new McCarthyism is not based on the fear of losing liberty. It is based on the intention of taking liberty away by scaring people into following a leader who is owned, operated, and a fully participating part of a controlling small group of very wealthy people. The Washington Post and many other sites are their propaganda tools. This group is who we need to take down and the way to do that is by removing their control and free benefits.
Are you a gullible member of this group or a lackey who feels an affinity for rich people who have no idea who you are and would step on you if you got noticed in a questionable way? I suspect the latter. However, you may be a paid lobbyist who took a few minutes off to see if you could convince a few gullibles to join your cause or to keep them in line.
According to the Washington Post, everyone who disagrees with Hillary Clinton or voted for Donald Trump is a dupe of the Russian Supermen, who can fool everyone all the time just by using the printed word. We are dealing with foes who are 100 feet tall and invincible. We need to fear someone so powerful. Only rich people can protect us from them and only if we protect their way of life. And you are protecting them. Great work. Here’s your participation medal.
If you’re a lobbyist, don’t worry. Lobbying is taking a story and selling it to people with money and using fear as a motivator. All you will need to do is change your story and keep your employers in a different state of fear. Creative use of metrics will prove you are effective in your new calling. A good lobbyist never runs out of story.
You still live in Chicago so they think you are harmless. Move to a place not totally whacko like there and you will immediately be put under scrutiny.
Mish does NOT live in Chicago, where did you get that idea?
Mish lives in McHenry County, north of Cook County (Chicago), and the only time in the history of that county that it voted for a democrat president up to and including 2016 was in 2008. Of course Chicago is the tail that wags the dog state of Illinois.
Mish- You need file a complaint with WaPo… Leaving you off the list is discrimination and will most certainly hurt your business going forward. Same holds true for Chris Martenson of Peak Prosperity,
Bezos paid $1 for WaPo–got robbed…
The Washington Post story includes named sources and reseach groups, contrary to Mish’s claim that they are anonymous.
No they didn’t. Read carefully. They quoted others by name, not the group that requested to remain anonymous. And that was the group that created the list.
WHOIS http://www.propornot.com
Domains By Proxy, LLC
Dude, is English your first language? Maybe take a reading comprehension course?
The (liberal controlled) mainstream media is terrified they are losing their ability to manipulate and control all the information “the people” have access to so they are lashing out.
May I suggest you educate yourself before making such an ill-informed comment?
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/democracyondeadline/mediaownership.html
Recall that corrupt Dem candidate Jon “two Americas” Edwards was brought down by the supermkt tabloid Natl Enquirer. Mainstream media outlets declined to cover the story (because reflected badly on a Democrat)..
Meanwhile… the fake news “study” is itself…fake news.
They compare (mostly) right wing blog articles against MSM pro Hillary editorials (real news). What a joke. Op Eds are real news.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/study-showing-fake-news-beating-real-news-looks-like-garbage/article/2607626
Remember that BJ Clinton/Monica was first exposed by Drudge (It put Drudge Report on the world stage) when Newsweek spiked the story for obviously political reasons.
Perhaps all the brainwashed deplorable should stop using amazon for a month to send that fascist liberal idiot Bezos a message. Most things on Amazon can be ordered direct from the supplier instead of through amazon itself.
Just go to aliexpress.com
Shame goods but shipped from China.
I did not know about the Amazon connection until Bozos brought it to everyone’s attention with the idiotical WaPo story. I will never buy anything through amazon again, I hope other thinking people boycott it too.
Or, to keep from being all loopy, buy what is most convenient from Amazon. They’re a prety good reseller…..
But, of course, never believe a word written in WaPo. NOT.ONE.WORD. And ditto for any other outlet headed up by people dumb enough to believe a government is some sort of useful entity. That somehow need to retain “control” over people, or anything else.
Funny that, too many voices and outlets for expression MUST be a communist plot, because those of who remember the cold war recall quite clearly that “State Media” is a singular noun.
Is there actually any credible evidence out there that Russians are involved with any of this? From the Wikileaks email hacks to the news stories?
No there is no credible evidence whatsoever. You can be sure it would be all over the MSM news if they could find something. What they did not report is Assange’s message that Russia is not among his sources of information. More like inside information; Snowden type info.
Remember Biden saying words to the effect that “We knew Russia was meddling and will get back at them at some future time”. A reporter then asked if they would know it was us? And Biden replied “hopefully not”.
That’s the problem (and it has been the problem with much of the Obama administration) – we are too damm subtle. Sometimes you just have to whack some people/countries upside the head in public to make them understand.
Thanks WaPo. Will save this list as a likely source of truthful alternative news sites. Zioglobalist mouthpieces die hard but they will die.
“How did I miss being on the list? Should I be pleased or disappointed?”
PropOrNot is an amateurish site. Its home page has an abbreviated list, presumably of the worst offenders. Any reasonable person, including those who read the Post can click on the “Absurd Pro-Russia Content” example and see that, in the case of ZeroHedge and others, the posted material is not ‘absurd’ in any way.
No one in reason is going to pay much attention to this story. Very few people even receive the Washington Post anymore, even in the DC area. More articles in the Post are read due to Drudge Report links than those who go to the Post’s own web site. And Drudge is on the big list.
If WaPo had put itself on the ignore list, it might have been more credible.
On the other hand, was the creator of this list just pulling off a huge TROLLING on Zuckerberg’s post about controlling fake news on Facebook? And did WaPo just fall for the trolling? Or was WaPo trolling the whole Fake News nonsense?
Just wondering. Could WaPo really believe that this article on Fake News sites was written without tongue in cheek? Was the author trolling the Democrats and their crybullies who are rioting over their hurt feelings from the election?
How could a publication “discredit itself” when IMO it didn’t have any credit to start with?
It’s shameful that Russia Today (modern-day Pravda) has more credibility than traditional mainstream US news media.
More evidence that illustrates the decline of an empire.
The Washington Post had a slogan 25 years ago, “If you don’t get it, you don’t get it!” I guess the intimidation approach to selling newspapers hasn’t changed.
Washington Post has been consistently like this since at least 2008, when their campaign news essentially became pro-Obama editorial misrepresented as news. Whole campaign of 2016 they were like this, promoting Neo-Con War Monger Party Line for going to war against Russia. Editorial page of WaPo with Krauthammer and some other oldtimers is sometimes the reverse.
WaPo political news people seem to have some kind of collective Learning Disorder. Personally, I would fire the whole political news staff and start over offshore with more diversity: Mexican, Indian, Irish, etc. Bezos is an investment banker, so he must calculate he will make more money with War Mongering and Political Propaganda.
Anyway, I call this same-old, same-old from WaPo. Nothing new here. I think the strategy is to continue the campaign for War on Russia another 4 years. This is longer term Bolshevik strategy, including getting people out into the streets for a Color Revolution in the USA, like with Ukraine where the street riots drove the president out of office and across the border. Worked for Lenin, who said the hell with elections and the will of the people and just seized power.
Yes, it sure looks like all pretense is being dropped and these Neo-Marxists are resorting to Kamikaze tactics. All or nothing.
WAPO and the NYT are the papers of record of Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, UTC, and the many other neo-con organizations that run the USA. I think this article will have an impact on some our more pro-military citizens.
“How did I miss being on the list? Should I be pleased or disappointed?”
Don’t worry Mish, you’ll always have Paris.
Mish cannot travel to France, he would be arrested. Another point in his favor.
Thanks for explaining my joke to everyone, including me. Jokes are so much funnier when you explain them. I never would have understood my own joke, thank you so much CJ.
Propornot Sued for Plagiary
A Russian attorney acting on behalf of Russian President Vladimir Putin has accused website Propornot of assuming powers reserved to state authority, including the power of censorship over written material that is politically sensitive.
He argues that all the material in the domains listed as propaganda are property of the Russian Federation and therefore fall under Russian jurisdiction, and that Propornot did not seek permission to use or publish the domain names. By Russian law only the national censorship authority has any right to declare if material is not suitable for publication.
The legal challenge is likely to open up a new chapter in EU Russia diplomatic activity as few Frenchmen read the mentioned domains which according to a top unnamed official in the EU Commission has been suggested as case to implement further sanctions on Russia for literary discrimination and inequality. Moves considered include banning the transfer of Russian government buildings to EU and insisting all books written in Russian carry a sticker inside the back cover that says ” Writen in Russian”.
In a further statement, another unnamed top official is quoted by a private source as saying that Russian retaliatory actions are encouraged “so that they look like bad guys too”, and that if none were forthcoming then other ” suitable insults” would be prepared.
You forgot the sarc tag again. 🙂
It kept falling off the screen !
much of this hysteria from
old media is a result of their realization they are increasingly irrelevant and increasingly broke.
Desperate situations need desperate remedies. It shows. Goebbels would be laughing in his grave.
Mish, you probably did not make it as you expected a Hillary win after the first debate.Anyone with Hillary is the real new site.
This ain’t shit compared to what is coming. What they are really prepping for is the new DNS, where the MSM is automatically filtered in while the real info is concealed. “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”… Well, you can’t do that, “oh yes ICANN”.
https://www.icann.org/
For criminy sakes! You mean Shedlock holds the esteemed status of persona-non-grata with the government of France, but he can’t make this penny ante list on Bezos’ blog site?
I’m struggling to find the Occam’s Razor rationale for that.
Bezos bought the already-for-all-practical-purposes defunct Washington Post in 2013 to use it as a personal plaything. His fun time is quickly coming to an end, as Katherine Graham and Ben Bradlee spin wildly in their graves.
Is this the MSM tripling down?
If you think the neo-progressives lost the war with Trump moving into the White House, then you are in for a unexpected wild ride these next few years. For them it was merely a lost battle and the Revolution continues apace with the end justifying any means necessary. Any means….. This is war for them and everyone else needs to wake up and take the threat seriously. The only way to put a dent in this cancer is for a special prosecutor to use Rico statutes to go after the infestation and expose the widespread corruption. Anything outcome short of this will be wholly ineffective and soon forgotten. Take it seriously folks, the neo-progressive “Revolution” is real and the tentacles are growing…..
That is true, they have certainly not given up.
Go to info@ourrevolution.com for info on the socialist’s continuing efforts.
Ha, and Jill Stein wants a recount and she got what? .8% of the vote? Yeah, ya think she did that on her own? LOL
Mish,
WP may very well be correct although the fake news was mixed in with real news
in a very convincing manner courtesy of Russia. I read a long detailed article about it yesterday; wish I’d saved it for you. In any case those 200+ news sites were duped, i.e. mostly not intentional unless the editor was a HRC hater.
Shoulda’ been Bernie, Leonard BButters/Spokane ________________________________
“WP may very well be correct although the fake news was mixed in with real news”
WP is a producer of fake news. You have been duped.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html?wpisrc=nl_fix-draw12&wpmm=1
here it is in the very next news item I read (also by the WP)
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I read the WaPo article you posted Leonard. I am embarrassed that an American newspaper could write such stupid propaganda, The “2 teams of researchers” are never identified. The case for Russian interference in US elections is never verified. I could make up the same BS with my own fictional teams of researchers if I were so inclined, but I prefer truth. Any thinking person can easily see right through the WaPo BS.
Have you ever been certified mentally incompetent Leonard?
You’re using a WAPO propaganda article, to justify another WAPO propaganda article? Are you joking? I sure hope so.
Well, they can’t blame Fidel Castro any more.
About the only way to move out of the MSM’s cross hairs is to die.
All those sites A-Z? There really is some hope for America after all when even multi- billionaires get swiped. Send Bezos to Mars as soon as possible – they say it will be a one way ticket.
One of WaPo’s “Useful Idiot” websites is one guy with no budget. Thanks to MSM WaPo’s attack, his readership just exploded. Thanks, WaPo! (you useful idiot you)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/lone-blogger-rages-against-washington-posts-russian-hit-list
This site did not make it to the list. Now, I am confused: is this a Russian propaganda site, or an establishment mouthpiece? Please give us a clue.
There are at least 27 sites on that list I have visited, or regularly visit. Putin must be totally in control of my mind I guess.
In fact, he even keeps me from viviting places like the Clinton News Network, Washinton Slimes, and a host of other rags out there.
How does he do it?
How does he do it?
How is Putin in control of the world?
Good question.
It would behoove mainstream media to think about that.
Mish
It’s the fear that 100 foot tall Supermen who are invincible and can do anything they want whenever they want that the propagandists are trying to exploit. They’re creating boogymen who live under the bed and get you when they want and you can’t do anything but tremble and pee your pants. It’s Red Dawn (original version) on the way. If you aren’t afraid of the Russians you either should be or you’re one of THEM or they’re dupe.
They’re exploiting the fear of the unknown and always keeping actual facts an inch beyond the horizon.
Mainstream media exists to sell ads and provide jobs and create a return on capital for the owners. The use of truthful facts did not appear in that description. This desire of that from us is only a projection from us onto them. They will continue to do this until jobs or profits are affected. At that time, the ‘editorial slant’ will change to one the readers expect.
Mainstream media claims to be truthful purveyors of information. Most people know enough to ignore some stories as pure crap. This election cycle broke that ‘contract’ and saw many push obvious and unending propaganda out to their audiences. This was a simple betrayal of trust. The Washington Post hasn’t got the message yet in a meaningful way. A lot of people might lose their jobs in Washington if the Post fails in their efforts to change our minds about Russian supermen and fails get Trump with the program.
How did he do it? He studied the ways of the Politbiro news, and the soviet propaganda apparatus, then infiltrated the MSM in the west with his agents.
Russia? WTF. Who cares about Russia? They were once called “Upper Volta with Missiles” before the Foreign Internationalist imperial control grid called Communism that ruled those peasants collapsed.
Now the Orange Patriot can sit on his Golden Throne atop his Shiny Tower, and the kingdom he surveys (metro NYC) has a larger GDP than Russia.
I have long been aware that most of the MSM output is indeed fake news. I learned this at school in the 1960s when our teacher brought in copies of two premier (at the time and still going) newspapers, the Daily Mirror (UK left wing) and the Daily Express (UK right wing) and asked us to compare the major political stories. The basic facts were there although each left out (different) details, but the analysis and opinion were so contrary that you would swear they covered different events, effectively making one or the other, if not both, ‘fake news’. Ever since I have never taken any MSM story at face value, I always look for the opposite or alternative views. Unfortunately most people simply take the source they prefer and never look farther, although I am pleased to see that this is gradually changing.
100% correct. Everybody brings there own perspective to information. Mish is on my Libertarian read list. Naked Capitalism is on my progressive list. And there are a few in different orbits. There is some truth in most perspectives.
“Unfortunately most people simply take the source they prefer and never look farther, although I am pleased to see that this is gradually changing.”
Unfortunately not changing for the better. 6 out of 10 Americans only read headlines, which can be partly blamed on the growing use of smartphones to view the “news.” Thus, only headlines need to be designed for maximum negative effect with any supporting and, just as importantly, any later contradictory evidence never being seen. Here’s one column about that headline reading fact. Please note the source:
Americans read headlines. And not much else
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/03/19/americans-read-headlines-and-not-much-else/
Peter C: Great comment.
Winston: There is no pure unequivocal truth. Only facts and how you put them into perspective in relation to other beliefs. The challenge it to keep yourself safe from actual problems and spend as little time doing it as possible. Good propagandists can take the superficial and make it subliminal. People are as smart as they need to be. They can be incredibly dumb if there is no obvious cost. This election cycle created a need to be a little smarter than in the past since the cost of not making an effort was measurable. We are now living through either 1) growth kicking and screaming or 2) a conscious decision to accept the oligarchy as our leaders and masters.
One of the major errors made by the relatively few people who actually make the effort to find the truth via a search for proven facts and the application of a “scientific method” of open mindedness metered with extreme skepticism is that they believe that sufficient numbers of others are just like them and the people they choose to associate or correspond with.
As proven by the popularity of Sanders, the popular vote count for Clinton, and the belief of many Trump voters that he will actually be able to drain the infinitely deep swamp, assuming he actually tries to do so, that is not the case. The systemic changes required to actually fix the world economy and governments in a sustainable fashion will not be taken as they are far too politically painful and will be opposed by those moneyed special interests who actually own our governments worldwide.
Thus, your #2 case, the one I believe will occur, won’t be a conscious decision of acceptance for the vast majority. It will be due to their successful manipulation, as always, by the oligarchy. For instance, when the economy continues to decline worldwide over the next four years, perhaps even crashing, watch for this being blamed on Trump, Brexit, any other EU exits during that time, and anti-globalist populism and nationalism in general instead of correctly placing the blame on prior economic polices. For far too many, that lie will be believed.
Ultimately, #2 is the winner. I think the cognitive dissonance is a fight for truth over beauty, with both being glamorized to the level of mythical. #1 is where we are at this moment. The top will always exploit the bottom and outsiders. Right now, the bottom is saying they went too far and are trying to take some of what they took back. The top is screaming mad and trying to figure out how to get back in the game.
“There is no pure unequivocal truth.”
Yes, there is and it can be obtained via the scientific method. I’ve found that an interesting percentage of economic bloggers who oppose the mainstream economic views are former techies. I don’t believe that’s an accident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
Disagree. Facts are truth. Interpretation of facts covers a range. The scientific method deals with facts and how to interpret them.
The progressive media sites are not on the list, that should tell you something. When full implementation of internet censer ship happens only the sites the government like will remain. They have tried for years now to shut down sites that do not agree with their enlightened views. /sarc
…are they going to shut down ‘The Onion’ ?
…and in our top story tonight, General Fidel Castro, is still dead.
‘The Onion’ was sold in 2016 to the Clinton campaign. What the campaign plans to do with it I don’t know,but expect propaganda on many fronts. collegehumor, SNL, etc. are all part of the propaganda machine.
Twitter has suspended various alt-right accounts. Slowly expect sites to need to tick various Government boxes to be allowed to continue.
This is partly down to the Merkel Obama discussion mid November.
There will be Web control, starting slowly, softening up the population ready for its roll-out.
https://reclaimourrepublic.wordpress.com/2016/11/18/video-obama-and-merkel-blame-internet-and-social-media-twitter-fake-mind-control-news-snowflakes/
You really just have consolidate the companies that control the networks and hosting facilities. Then provide them with lucrative government contracts. Then the owners of these firms make the decision to carry only certain sites as a business decision in the interests of the shareholders. I see the Republicans are already pushing to “reform” the FCC.
There’s an old joke about a young kid who enters a confessional and refuses to name the young lady whom he had sexual relations with. The priest then asks if it was Mary, was it Annie, etc. When quizzed by a friend if he was sorry that he was not forgiven, the kid replied, “No but I got some good names.” Well, thanks to these fools, we and others who have been questioning the media now know about a lot more good news sources.
Merkels own mouth.
Contain = control
Manage and steer = Feed with controlled propaganda.
“She compared the internet to the invention of the printing press, citing the consequences it had on industrialized countries.
“It took a while until societies learned how to find the right kind of policies to contain this and to manage and steer this,” she said.”
I know that the German government has very strict controls on its people glorifying the days of Hitler to prevent any possibility of a replay.
Yet it’s leaders like Merkel who push the common man to such an extreme that they turn to autocratic powers for relief.
That notion seems to fly right over the head of the Bundestag.
““It took a while until societies learned how to find the right kind of policies to contain this and to manage and steer this,” she said.””
I thought we bombed this nonsense out of the Germans during World War 2. Apparently we were not adequately successful.
Yes, you should be affended. We should be thankful. I now have many new good sources of information, and anyone that uses the piece will be immediately outed as a useful idiot.
Was it the Russians who proposed higher taxes, continued support of undeclared wars and Obamacare?
Maybe you were excluded from the list because they didn’t want to draw any attention to your sight. They also excluded Armstrong, who is feared the most by the establishment.
I like reading dystopian novels, and now I can just read the news!
Matt Bracken’s short story “What I saw at the Coup” foreshadows the end game of this fake media battle.
I await TheOnion announcing that propornot is one of their hoax sites.
Mish, condolences for not making The Fake Fake List. They probably saw some of your headlines like “Nowcast 4th Quarter GDP Estimate 2.4 Percent vs. GDPNow 3.6%” and had trouble getting thru the article. And then decided that your writing is too challenging for their regressive crybully just-us readers.
I am no fan of Russia – having lived in that country I think their government is more insane and corrupt than US government – but the article dissected by Mish is yet another example of mainstream media sliding to irrelevance in accelerated fashion. One would think that after their brilliant election coverage, they would not double down on their stupidity and echo-chamber mentality, but no – this example might be even worse than their Trump coverage. The only reason for being included on the “fake news” list apparently is criticism of American politics…they have not given any other metrics or information how was the list compiled.
And what is even better, is that they say “Obtain news from actual reporters” – we should listen to reporters that did not dare to question Bush about Iraq WMD’s, threw softball questions to Ms. Clinton, argued about who stole Clinton emails and not their contents, etc etc etc.
“The researchers blame an “online echo chamber” where some players were knowingly part of the propaganda campaign, while others were merely “useful idiots”.”
Quite obviously, the “researchers” are part of a propaganda campaign of their own.
My days as a Washington Post subscriber are numbered. When my current subscription up, adios. Their coverage of Trump during the campaign was beyond pale. At any given time at least a half dozen (hit) pieces on Trump. HRC given velvet glove treatment.
Of course, not mentioned is the history between Bezos and Trump. Trump in the past has said Amazon has a big antitrust problem.
I went through the list last night and was actually surprised that you weren’t on the list considering your very accurate comments on the mess in Ukraine and it’s blatant neo-nazi propaganda couched as US democracy in action.
You should be disappointed, I know i was.
You should send them a letter along the lines of Joseph Welch’s comment to Senator McCarthy, “You left me off your list. Have you no sense of decency? Have you no shame?”
Maybe Mish on a double secret enemies list?
Hopefully, wikileaks will get hacked e-mails from Washington Post so we can get to the bottom of this slight …
Black Friday Sales
I’ve been googling and yet to see ANY news. Went to Target/Walmart/Kohls websites and no press releases. NRF twitter quiet. In the past I’ve seen first results as early as Friday night … or no later than Saturday morning. Not sure if this was conscience decision before weekend started … or just that news is not good.
A few minor stories on online doing well, but nothing on bricks and mortar.
This is the equivalence of the MSM yelling “liar, liar, pants on fire..” They are discredited and don’t know what to do but try to discredit other news outlets. The paradigm has shifted and they don’t know how to adjust.
Speaking of “respected” main stream media.
This Today Show video sums up my thoughts
That’s been one of my favorites, too. It’s a metaphor for all mainstream news.
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Puzzling omissions :
– mishtalk.com
– breitbart.com
– nypost.com
Confounding inclusions :
– gaia.com
– nutritionfacts.org
– libertyblitzkrieg.com
Just heartwarming to know :
– Huffington Post is on the level
– Conspiracy Planet on the level
– Henry Makow is seen as a subversive element
Not to worry,,,the vote recount is going to put Waddles into her “deserved” position as the Queen. MSM will see to it.
Got lead?
good point – you didn’t make the list either….
Knowing all the clicks and eyeball metrics
What were the top ten fake news stories in this election and cui bono?
Is it posted out there somewhere?
I find the contrast in the msm between Castro and Trump ironic — even down to the Pope and Putin.
Mish
Looks like some one duped WP, similar to Sokal Hoax, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair.
All of the things you bitch about do not even appear in the Washington Post articles, as far as I can tell. They come from other sources like warontherocks.com, propornot, etc.
O/T: Assange alive (for those who were starting to wonder)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-26/cia-taking-over-wikileaks-false-assange-emerges-gives-interview-after-dinner-varoufa
Assange audio recording of poor quality. Reminds me of “Osama” endorsing Kerry just before the 2004 election.
They missed out Media Lens
http://medialens.org/
It is interesting that you should use the analogy of McCarthyism. Joe McCarthy would have been a sideline of history had it not been for his attorney who taught him the practical use of attack politics and the innuendo. That attorney was none other that Roy Coen. And, if you don’t know who about his background or who else he mentored on his other famous client list included you need to do a Wikipedia search.
Spoiler alert, it is scary for the future of this country.
Nixon, Reagan, or Trump? Cohn had a large list of friends and contacts. One suspects that he would be selling hot dogs in Washington D.C., but there would be no pizza or pasta on the menu.
I dont think that the Main Stream Media has
yet gotten round to the fact that since the advent of the internet circa 1995 onwards
that there has been a steady drift from MSM traditional news (TV, newspapers)
towards alternative sources of information (ie internet)
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom_by_circulation
to chart the decline in newspaper circulation (ie sales) in the UK since then.
newspaper readership has probably fallen at a greater rate than even that.
I used to read newspapers such as the FT until 2005;
then stopped, because i realised that i had to a large extent stopped reading it for the previous
4 or 5 years, yet continued to buy it.
i called this the Zombie effect; (in the same way that people watch a certain programme, or buy a certain newspaper just from force of habit)
internet has been my primary source of news info since 2003
old habits die hard.