One by one, mainstream media has fallen for “trust us” propaganda from the CIA.
Here’s NYT bullsh*t: Putin Ordered ‘Influence Campaign’ Aimed at U.S. Election, Report Says
American intelligence officials have concluded that the president of Russia, Vladimir V. Putin, personally “ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election,” and turned from seeking to “denigrate” Hillary Clinton to developing “a clear preference for President-elect Trump.”
The report, a damning and surprisingly detailed account of Russia’s efforts to undermine the American electoral system and Mrs. Clinton in particular, went on to assess that Mr. Putin had “aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.”
Mush for Brains
Anyone who calls the report “damning and surprisingly detailed” has mush for brains.
I invite you to read the full declassified report so you can decide for yourself.
Report “Highlights”
- Putin most likely wanted to discredit Secretary Clinton because he has publicly blamed her since 2011 for inciting mass protests against his regime in late 2011 and early 2012, and because he holds a grudge for comments he almost certainly saw as disparaging him.
- Beginning in June, Putin’s public comments about the US presidential race avoided directly praising President-elect Trump, probably because Kremlin officials thought that any praise from Putin personally would backfire in the United States.
- Putin has had many positive experiences working with Western political leaders whose business interests made them more disposed to deal with Russia, such as former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.
- When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the presidency the Russian influence campaign focused more on undercutting Secretary Clinton’s legitimacy and crippling her presidency from its start, including by impugning the fairness of the election.
- We assess that influence campaigns are approved at the highest levels of the Russian Government—particularly those that would be politically sensitive.
- In early September, Putin said publicly it was important the DNC data was exposed to WikiLeaks, calling the search for the source of the leaks a distraction and denying Russian “state-level” involvement.
- Russia’s state-run propaganda machine—comprised of its domestic media apparatus, outlets targeting global audiences such as RT and Sputnik, and a network of quasi-government trolls—contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.
- Starting in March 2016, Russian Government–linked actors began openly supporting President-elect Trump’s candidacy in media aimed at English-speaking audiences.
- RT and Sputnik—another government-funded outlet producing pro-Kremlin radio and online content in a variety of languages for international audiences—consistently cast President-elect Trump as the target of unfair coverage from traditional US media outlets that they claimed were subservient to a corrupt political establishment.
- A journalist who is a leading expert on the Internet Research Agency claimed that some social media accounts that appear to be tied to Russia’s professional trolls—because they previously were devoted to supporting Russian actions in Ukraine—started to advocate for President-elect Trump as early as December 2015.
- RT America TV, a Kremlin-financed channel operated from within the United States, has substantially expanded its repertoire of programming that highlights criticism of alleged US shortcomings in democracy and civil liberties.
- RT introduced two new shows — “Breaking the Set” on 4 September and “Truthseeker” on 2 November — both overwhelmingly focused on criticism of US and Western governments as well as the promotion of radical discontent.
- RT aired a documentary about the Occupy Wall Street movement on 1, 2, and
4 November. RT framed the movement as a fight against “the ruling class” and described the current US political system as corrupt and dominated by corporations. - RT has also focused on criticism of the US economic system, US currency policy, alleged Wall Street greed, and the US national debt.
- RT runs anti-fracking programming, highlighting environmental issues and the impacts on public health.
Amusing Poll
Here’s an amusing poll by John Harwood, a Dad who covers Washington, the economy and national politics for CNBC and the New York Times.
Anyone who accepts that ridiculous intelligence report at full face value in light of other disasters such as Colin Powell’s embarrassing report to the UN on Saddam Hussein’s alleged but nonexistent WMDs has mush for brains as well.
Once again, it’s possible Russia is involved, there just is no evidence. In contrast there is actual admission of US meddling, with disastrous consequences in the affairs of other countries.
Also note that nothing Wikileaks released on Hillary was false. Have you ever seen so much insanity over actual facts?
“It’s amazing how much panic one honest man can spread among a multitude of hypocrites.” – Thomas Sowell
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Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Agree. Fire the CIA. They are a waste of money and time just to produce lies!
And fire the TSA … !!!!
Forget about Russia, Mexico interferes in the USA more than any other foreign country:
For the past 50 years, the government of Mexico has aided and abetted il-legal immigration into the USA. This is a clear ACT of WAR !!!
For the past 30 years, Mexican gangs have flooded the USA with il-legal drugs and with organized crime. This is a clear ACT of WAR !!!
In 2016, Mexican officials called Trump a RACIST during the US Presidential campaign, and they begged US citizens of Hispanic ancestry, to be NEVER-TRUMP voters. This is a clear ACT of WAR !!!
Other than Isreal.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/SMALL_russhacksaddamnuke.jpg
Fire the cia? Trump will be jfk-ed within 100 days
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And Bengazi was just a random mob incensed by a YouTube video…
Their hypocrisy knows no bounds. I wish they would put the same scrutiny on America’s involvement in the Ukraine elections. Has everybody forgotten Victoria Nuland?
“Also note that nothing Wikileaks released on Hillary was false. Have you ever seen so much insanity over actual facts?”
“It’s amazing how much panic one honest man can spread among a multitude of hypocrites.”
-Thomas Sowell
Thanks
I added that quote!
Mish
NYT writes “The report, a damning and surprisingly detailed account of Russia’s efforts to undermine the American electoral system ”
But only 2 paragraphs down we read “But the declassified report contained no information about how the agencies had collected their data or had come to their conclusions. ”
Is it just me, but how does “no information” equal “surprisingly detailed”?
It was obvious that an illegal, organized attempt was being made to subvert the results of the election by sabotaging the electoral college, and now it seems they have not yet given up. It is not out of concern for the nation but out of fear, from what I am not sure. There must be something about Trump ( something good?) that I am not aware.
Most CIA employees work in the US and not oversees. What do they know about the world? They are hacks who respond to their pay master – the U.S. Congress. Lound mouth Senators McCain and Graham pour fuel on the Russian stories and want Trump to come to heel on their terms.
The CIA report you offer here is not the same as the reports leaked unofficially in two goes earlier?
This one seems more sanitised and avoids mention of internal disagreements inside the CIA.
And provisos they had no actual proof.
What do you know about this?
Thanks
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From William Binney, formerly of NSA:
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/372874-us-intelligence-lost-professional-discipline/
…former NSA technical director and whistleblower William Edward Binney…“I see a lot of allegations in what I’ve read so far of the report, but certainly it’s kind of light on proof of anything…It is a part of the “repetition from multiple directions until it’s believable” tactic used against Russia and Russian media. The repetition usually comes simultaneously from multiple “supposedly authoritative sources,” such as Congressmen, MSM citing anonymous security sources, intelligence agencies, until everyone stops questioning it, Binney believes. The whole situation is dangerous for the US itself, since it exposes serious immaturity in the intelligence services, which have basically lost the ability to perform their primary duties…That’s why they can’t stop any of these terrorist attacks. They are really good, the FBI is anyway, in entrapping people but it’s not in stopping real attacks.”
I think Binney nailed it…
and one sentence from the first page of “the full declassified” report, essentially admits it:
“Some analytic judgments are based directly on collected information; OTHERS REST ON PREVIOUS JUDGEMENTS, which serve as building blocks in rigorous analysis.”
Judgements begetting judgements?
I was looking for facts, but just before that, I had read:
“the declassified report does not and cannot include the full supporting information.”
I deemed it a waste of time to look any further for facts.
Once again Mish, you have just nailed these lying bs con artist from the CIA and main stream media of the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN. Thank you for being the single best source available of truth and absolute facts regarding financial and political news hat we can depend on day after day. I consider it a priveledge to have the opportunity to read and participate with other subscribers on your blog everyday. Thank you.
Give the bastards brain scans.
First evidence of brain abnormalities found in pathological liars
“Specifically, liars had a 25.7 percent increase in prefrontal white matter compared to the antisocial controls and a 22 percent increase compared to the normal controls. Liars had a 14.2 percent decrease in prefrontal gray matter compared to normal controls.
More white matter – the wiring in the brain – may provide liars with the tools necessary to master the complex art of deceit, Raine said.
“Lying takes a lot of effort,” he said.
“It’s almost mind reading. You have to be able to understand the mindset of the other person. You also have to suppress your emotions or regulate them because you don’t want to appear nervous. There’s quite a lot to do there. You’ve got to suppress the truth.
“Our argument is that the more networking there is in the prefrontal cortex, the more the person has an upper hand in lying. Their verbal skills are higher. They’ve almost got a natural advantage.”
But in normal people, it’s the gray matter – or the brain cells connected by the white matter – that helps keep the impulse to lie in check.
Pathological liars have a surplus of white matter, the study found, and a deficit of gray matter. That means they have more tools to lie coupled with fewer moral restraints than normal people, Raine said.
“They’ve got the equipment to lie, and they don’t have the disinhibition that the rest of us have in telling the big whoppers,” he said.
“When people make moral decisions, they are relying on the prefrontal cortex. When people ask normal people to make moral decisions, we see activation in the front of the brain,” he explained. “If these liars have a 14 percent reduction in gray matter, that means that they are less likely to care about moral issues or are less likely to be able to process moral issues. Having more gray matter would keep a check on these activities.”
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-09/uosc-feo092805.php
From House speaker Paul Ryan:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/05/ryan-attempts-to-delegitimize-trump-victory-are-bogus/
…Hillary Clinton is responsible for her own loss, the House speaker concluded. “Russia didn’t tell Hillary Clinton not to go to Wisconsin or Michigan. They didn’t put the server in her basement or put the emails on Anthony Weiner’s laptop,” Ryan said. “He won the election fair and square.”
I respectfully disagree with Ryan. Putin likely directed double-agent Huma Abedin to place Hilary’s emails on Weiner’s laptop and anonymously tip off the FBI. Security cameras for Hillary’s HQ should be scrutinized, as they may show what Nate Silver would call “high probability” Kremlin agents gained entry to Hillary’s server and directed a Podesta aid to label as “legitimate” the phishing email requesting Podesta’s password. Tip: Look for the guy in the dark trenchcoat embroidered with the words “Russian Spy.”
Found it!
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Forget it don’t waste your time. Your dealing with spoiled brats. They will never listen to facts and certainly not to the narrative of taking personal responsibility. So you have to treat them like children and simply ignore them. Let them scream, kick and pair about the results That basically most of the citizens of United States can stand Hillary or the Democratic Party as it stands right now and who they represent. Reviewing Mish’s county’s in red that Voted Trump tells the whole story. Another item that solidify the Trump. Won fair and square is the attempted recount vote in Michigan. In that state the recount was abandoned after 65% of the Detroit vote was declared void because of more votes for Clinton than. Registered voters even though people were allowed to register as they voted and did so with out voter ID.
Here’s the key though folks, Republicans and of course all Trump supporters need to
Keep our focus and guard up. We need to help President – elect Trump gain more support and convert more Congress and Senate seats in elections of 2018. The work of building a strong democratic nation never ends. We have to demonstrate exactly what our founders of this country fought for when they e wrote our Declaration of Independance and clarified in our constitution. It’s note often you get a second chance to get things right.
Forget it don’t waste your time. Your dealing with spoiled brats. They will never listen to facts and certainly not to the narrative of taking personal responsibility. So you have to treat them like children and simply ignore them. Let them scream, kick and pair about the results That basically most of the citizens of United States can stand Hillary or the Democratic Party as it stands right now and who they represent. Reviewing Mish’s county’s in red that Voted Trump tells the whole story. Another item that solidify the Trump. Won fair and square is the attempted recount vote in Michigan. In that state the recount was abandoned after 65% of the Detroit vote was declared void because of more votes for Clinton than. Registered voters even though people were allowed to register as they voted and did so with out voter ID.
Here’s the key though folks, Republicans and of course all Trump supporters need to
Keep our focus and guard up. We need to help President – elect Trump gain more support and convert more Congress and Senate seats in elections of 2018. The work of building a strong democratic nation never ends. We have to demonstrate exactly what our founders of this country fought for when they e wrote our Declaration of Independance and clarified in our constitution. It’s note often you get a second chance to get things right. I have faith in Americans. Let’s all band together to get it right, just like our founders did.
Two more weeks…
Brexit isn’t gonna happen in first half, US fake news about Russia 2nd half
Let’s see, trust Julian Assange or the agency that gave us the false flag event of the “Gulf of Tonkin” resulting in over 50,000 names on the Wall.
For those of you who are ‘information challenged’ that means I trust Julian over the CIA, NSA, Homeland Security, the Clintons, the Obamas, the Media, all elected members of Congress, all elected members of the Senate, and even the Donald.
Enough said.
I am sick of so called “conservative” commentators and politicians leaping onto the “Russia did it” bandwagon.
Anyone who says this as if it is certain and a fact is a liar or delusional, or both.
Sometimes politics require you find even larger demons from which to defend than just opposition parties. Acquisition and retainage of POWER is a dirty business. We must simply say NO and make sure they HEAR us.
The MSM is having its collective Dan Rather moment. It’s all over for them.
You can spend hours every day on CNN’s youtube channel just laughing at the huge drop in traffic and reading the comments under each news story. I’d say 75% of comments are trolling CNN.
The happiest person in the world is Obama. Instead of him being blamed for everything, we can now blame everything on Russian hackers.
So….did all the Russians VOTE TWICE? Did all the DEAD RUSSIANS vote? Did the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT Russians all vote? Did the Russians stand in front of the voting places and INTIMIDATE voters from going inside? Did the Russians pay old, feeble folks to vote ? Did the Russians empty out the nursing homes and drive them all to the voting place?
Maybe the russians counted more Hillary Clinton votes in Detroit than there were voters or maybe democrats did their usual ballot-stuffing but underestimated the Trump support:
Reuters:
Numerous voting machines in heavily Democratic Detroit showed a greater number of ballots than poll workers records said were cast in the Nov. 8 presidential election, the Detroit News reported on Tuesday.
About 37 percent of precincts in Wayne County, Michigan, where Detroit is located, showed such discrepancies, the newspaper reported, citing records prepared at its request by the county.
Now that Russia and Putin are our new best friends, ask yourselves this, aren’t they really doing what it is in their own best interests? Maybe our interests coincide but maybe not? Trump seems to have a lap dog’s devotion to Putin good for Russia but probably not good for the US. For now Putin has an ideal situation, the US in disarray with their intelligence agencies discredited and their new president ready and willing to do what ever Putin wants.
Trump is nobody’s lapdog, which is what I like about him. For years, American and European powers have been doing their best to “isolate” Russia through a policy of NATO expansion. This is stupid politics because it drives Russia into an alliance with China, creating a dangerous axis of power. It was only a few months ago that Chairman Xi Jinping said, “In ten years, the key to the new world order will be the tandem of Russia and China”. It would be better for us in the long run to have Russia as a happy, productive trading partner with the European community. Russian cooperation is also required to destroy ISIS, and to achieve any lasting peace in the middle east.
If you think the options are:
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Either to believe a confirmed LIAR Clapper without NONE of the 17 intelligence agencies having even taken even a look at DNC’s email server but still writing long reports how “it was the russians” without ANY PROOF and whipping up anti-russian cold-war mentality but with the exception that something must be done to strike back at Russia which could lead to a nuclear war with russians.
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Being Putins lap dog.
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Then have severe issues in making rational decisions.
How about we pick the 3rd choice and act rationally without whipping up hysteria?
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I can understand that neocons are unhappy and bitter because their favorite member of the neocon-club and crazy-warmonger Hillary Clinton did not get elected but could people still keep their heads cool…
The greater threat to those in power is not the Russians or even radical Muslims, it is our disaffection to their proclamations…..the FAILURE of our willingness to JUMP when they scream THREAT! They NEED a sense of control…over us, over our reactions to their stimulus, and our indifference to their noises is scaring the crap out of them. Polls showing our general disbelief in their “intelligence” are all the proof they need and Trump sees this clearly. This is going to be very interesting…and dangerous on MANY levels.
Once again Mish, you have just nailed these lying bs con artist from the CIA and main stream media of the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN. Thank you for being the single best source available of truth and absolute facts regarding financial and political news hat we can depend on day after day. I consider it a priveledge to have the opportunity to read and participate with other subscribers on your blog everyday. Thank you.
This bullying provocative behavior on part of the US toward Russia is disturbing and should alarm any thinking American. The question is whether it’s just one last feeble attempt by the puerile Obama administration to take a final jab in Obama’s personal feud w/ Putin & the Russian government, or whether it’s a concerted effort on part of the US to restore the Cold War – or worse.
I don’t see many congress critters questioning the word of the CIA or James Clapper who got caught perjuring himself before congress about data collection by the NSA a few years back. Snowden made a liar of him. What short memories they have. So minus Trump – it appears to be a concerted effort.
And the CIA and Clapper’s words seem to be good as gold to the MSM. I watched Fux News earlier today. The hosts have bought into the evil Russian government hacker theory hook, line and sinker. All the networks have piled on.
Julian Assange was a hero to the dems and the liberals when he exposed the leaks on the Bush wars a few years ago. Now suddenly he’s become an evil SOB and an enemy to American democracy. lol.
Julian Assange has never lied to me. The CIA and Clapper have lied repeatedly. I’ll go with the odds.
Exactly. It’s completely disgusting how corrupt our government has gotten since our founding fathers fought and formed our government. I find it amazing and reckless how each successive administration thinks they have For what ever reason our elected leaders continue to lie, and our public media rushes to advance those lies.
Tim Gaynor
We don’t have to believe the lies, we simply have to believe they are lying to us for our own good.
Too little too late.
I’ve been thinking about that too. Why Russia? Why go after them? The economy of California is bigger than the Russian economy.
My guess is because the country is improving under capitalism and languished under communism. Those lazy, drunk Ivans are now much more productive than before, and that doesn’t fit the ivy league socialist overlord model of central planning.
Russia is capitalistic country now but the difference between the capitalism orthodoxy ruling west is that Putin has decided to keep strategic assets like oil and gas either under direct ownership of russian government or by owning 50%+ of companies controlling oil and gas or by controlling oil pipes and gas pipes and taking a slice of the value of oil and gas transported through those pipes to western europe to russian government.
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US billionaires would prefer it if all countries would be ready to asset-strip themselves completely and give all the riches that the country and land has in private hands.
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This strategy and ideology originating from USA also includes electricity generation and electricity networks and even water source privatization and water network privatization are now being marketed as good policy in european countries after many electricity networks and electricity plants have been privatized by european countries for laughably low prices by incompetent politicians listening to US consultants telling them “private ownership is always more efficient, just privatize electricity plants and electricity networks quickly”
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There is a global lobbying happening to make sure all countries asset-strip themselves completely leaving them with only massive debts and a tax base that is crumbling because of environment destroying free trade and because of electricity prices and soon water prices shooting through the roof.
The primary reason for private electricity generation is because private individuals and corporations invented it, and having been US based, built out the network first in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westinghouse_Electric_Company
It’s revisionist thinking to think that somehow private industry stole electricity from “the people,” most of whom didn’t see the need until need was manufactured by the electric companies in the form of labor saving appliances and improved lighting. Yes, it can easily be argued that electricity is a necessity and therefore should be subject to regulation (especially given the monopolistic nature of distribution), but nationalization without adequate accountability, which is how things tend to operate in the US, is a terrible idea.
Most of european countries had government or city owned electricity plants and government or city owned electricity networks and as a consequence electricity prices were cheap.
Then consultants started brainwashing stupid politicians that private ownership is always better.
Politicians privatized electricity plants and electricity networks in most countries in Europe and of course new owners immediately jacked up electricity prices and transfer costs for electricity leading to less money in the wallets of poor people to consume other things because electricity bills doubled and tripled and leading to higher costs for companies on electricity so all companies had to hike prices of their products and services.
Especially energy intensive manufacturing industry having factories in Europe was losing even more compared to a factory in China where electricity was cheap in addition to labor being cheap and no costs for pollution.
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The destruction incompetent politicians and greedy consultants have wreaked in Europe includes the jacking up of electricity prices.
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The media predictably does not blame those incompetent politicians who sold electricity plants and networks for laughably low amounts and thereby caused the price increases, instead the media just wonders why electricity is so expensive now.
CIA and the intelligence community is having a massive case of projection going on…
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Because US and CIA manipulated the situation in Ukraine to a point where there was a coup against a democratically elected russian speaking president and the muscle for this coup were ukrainian nazi-thugs and the chosen leader was picked by Nuland because Nuland thought “yats” aka Arseniy Yatseniuk was the guy he became ukrainian leader but promptly f*cked everything up because he went on with what the nazi-thugs were demanding so he removed russian language from it’s position as an official language and left only ukrainian language as the official language (Ukraine used to have both russian and ukrainian as official languages which is understandable because almost half of ukrainians are ethnically and linguistically russian.) so all russian speaking ukrainians were terrified because it showed that nazis had power in Ukraine and Arseniy Yatseniuk was ready to oppress russian speaking ukrainians.
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This incompetent clusterf*ck by Nuland led to Russia seeing the opportunity to getting Crimea and they got it with 90% support in local elections because Crimea is russian speaking and was part of russia until 1950’s when drunk communist leaders gave it as a gift to Ukraine because Soviet Union was supposed to forever so borders did not matter.
Putin probably realized that if Ukraine is led by nazis and nazi-puppets ready to make russian language illegal then Russia could forget about renewing the lease on the only warm water navy base it has in Crimea so he acted quickly.
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Then also other russian speaking parts of Ukraine started wanting to get away from Ukraine and instead of returning russian as an official language Yats sent ukrainian troops and when many of them refused Yats sent special units comprised of ukrainian-nazis who think russians are sub-humans.
Obviously this did not go well…
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Clinton/Nuland combo is the most incompetent pair that has ever handled US foreign policy.
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Now CIA is projecting that because US was ready to meddle in other countries internal politics and orchestrate coups even if it means working with ukrainian nazis that Russia must be equally power-mad like Clinton and Nuland were…
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“As is the inn-keeper, thus he trusts his guest” is a saying in my country, indicating that people interpret others’ actions to mean what it would mean if they themselves were involved.
Jung talked about the shadow self, Freud about projection.
The whole meme by the US Defense establishment about hybrid information warfare, that is, achieving the results of warfare by other means, notably propaganda, is nothing else than a completely transparent self-revelation of what they themselves are doing and how they think. Russian defense spending is obviously intended for invasion of other countries.
The most peculiar thing about the Russia scare is that absolutely nothing has come to light since it was first started. Despite there being no additional facts or evidence, the story just keeps growing and transforming itself. Now they’re saying it’s not just the Russians, but Iran and China were in on it too. Everything that has been added since the democrats first blamed leaked emails on the Russians is pure echo chamber conjecture and speculation: The GRU did it, hackers used by Russian intelligence did it, WikiLeaks was in on it, Putin supervised it, RT and Russian media were marshalled to make Americans change their minds, Iran was part of it too … Even Clapper was still saying in October that there was a lot of hyperventilation going on about Russian attribution.
What if Putin et al were to simply state openly that they prefer a new president who will not bait them and is mindful of what military confrontation could lead to, and who tries to cooperate on matters of joint interest [they have said this], and they assess that Trump more likely fits this bill. Who cares? Obviously they would think that. Obama openly campaigned against Brexit! Obama even referred to “after we brokered a deal .. uh .. to transition power in Ukraine” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmUNCsT8TjU [00:19 second mark]
1. DNC/MSM favored Trump as an easily beatable Republican candidate, and enabled that scenario.
2. MSM gave Trump billions in free publicity. Even though they knew he was baiting and trolling them, they couldn’t help themselves, and thought their negative coverage would be a negative for Trump.
3. DNC/MSM subverted the democratic election process, favoring Clinton over Sanders, who would have been the better candidate to beat Trump, even hiring fixers who paid thugs to incite violence outside of Trump rallies and paid people to populate the DNC convention and keep out Sanders’ supporters.
4. DNC/MSM grip on reality was completely knocked out when the inevitable Trump loss did not happen, and they were themselves almost entirely to blame.
5. Psychotic denial sets in and everything is blamed on the omnipotent and omniscient puppet-master in Moscow: After all, almost nothing happens in Russia or the world without Him knowing about it.
Ironic how flouting rules and principles about classified information and internet communication has been inverted into cyber attack.
Don’t know why Trump is being upbraided for not submitting to the authority of the intelligence community. There is already a precedent for this in living memory, e.g., BILL CLINTON. When Frank Eugene Corder crashed a plane onto the White House lawn in 1994, the running gag in Washington was that the pilot was [then CIA director] Jim Woolsey, trying to get a meeting with the president. It was common knowledge that Clinton was completely uninterested in meetings and briefings with the CIA. In fact, Clinton stated in an interview that he could pick up more from reading the NY Times or the Washington Post than from so-called intelligence briefings.
Take note that Obama continues to send US forces and military equipment (tanks, etc…) to the Baltic States located in Russia’s backyard.
What would Obama do if Russia formed a pact with Mexico (or Cuba) and planted missiles and Russian military personnel on our borders?
Is there any doubt it would lead to another “Bay of Pigs” confrontation?
The school yard bully is universally hated.
Let’s hope Trump promotes cooperation over conflict to avert WW3.
I do not know what is worse to be honest. I really do not care who leaked the emails. The emails are true and no one not even our government is denying the factual content of the emails. This speaks volumes of how corrupt the electoral process is today.
Our intel blames Russia and yet we meddle all the time in other country elections. I guess it is ok for us to do it. James Clapper is a know liar and they parade this guy in the testimony and yet even he stated no election machines were hacked.
I guess it is good to speak untruths and keep the public in the dark as to what really went on prior to the election. I wish our media had the reported on these problems but alas they are nothing more then presstitutes. Almost anyone that can read from a teleprompter or lie with a straight face could now qualify for a news anchor.
During the congressional certification of the election some senators did not want to certify the election because Hillary lost. I only hope their districts put them out of office. The voters handed Trump a win yes but the bigger picture is the republicans also now hold congress. This is the first time in 82 years people.
Hopefully our government will be thinking about jobs and not debating abortion for a change.
I welcome any “interference” in our political process that involves telling the truth, even if the truth had to be ‘stolen’.
Sorry to burst y’all’s bubble but CNN has obtained proof of Russian involvement.
https://i.redd.it/mh0oxiho0v2y.png
But seriously it’s hard to match the level of idiocy of these people who buy the NYT and WaPo despite having no fish to wrap.
For decades a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government’s mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences but on July 2, 2013 that taboo came silently to an end with the implementation of a new law passed in January. The law unleashed thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption.
This “reform” was criticized by many human rights activist as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts. Prior to that time the massive amount of U.S. programming produced by the Broadcasting Board of Governors such as Voice of America, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, and the Middle East Broadcasting Networks could only be viewed and broadcast in foreign countries. Danger lurks where propaganda and surveillance intersect. More details about this in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/07/when-propaganda-and-surveillance.html
If you haven’t already – please take time to view George Webb’s outstanding youtube videos on Where is Eric Braverman? Who Killed Monica Petersen?
George is a retired FBI International Agent and he’s blowing the lid on CIA cutouts. The videos are a primer on ratlines, pipelines, trafficking, the Clinton Foundation, all the covert funding, brownstone operations, etc.
Many of us can’t believe he is still alive for divulging this mind-blowing intel.
https://www.youtube.com/user/georgwebb
Never mind the whole purpose of “Freedom of Speech”, is that ALL speech, by anyone, be allowed. Not just all speech made by approved by the ruling drones du jour.
If some schlub named Putin happens to have some information he feels may interest American voters, he is welcome to. Then voters can pay attention to him or not, as they see fit.
Heck, Freedom of Speech even extends far enough to allow tax feeders and their press stooges, who have dedicated their lives to rob the American people, the same privilege.
“RT and Sputnik—another government-funded outlet producing pro-Kremlin radio and online content in a variety of languages for international audiences—consistently cast President-elect Trump as the target of unfair coverage from traditional US media outlets that they claimed were subservient to a corrupt political establishment.”
Booohoooo!!!! It’s Big Bad Putin’s fault that noone believes our (NYT, WaPo, the rest of the spin machine….) self serving drivel anymore.
Even if true it certainly does not fall within the category of “hacking”.
https://t.co/yoNNlSzWAe
I have it on reliable hearsay that Putin directed all Russian US citizens in Wisconsin and Michigan to vote for trump twice.
WTF?
Seems a bit disingenuous for this site.
How about “One by one my hands have fallen for the trust my brain propaganda .”
I’d say these media outlets have been organs of the power structure for a long tme.
Come on Mish, LOL
I can not believe the comments your readers are posting.
Here I thought most of the readers of your blog were like me.
I am a V Nam era veteran who voted for Trump and believe he has the
opportunity to save this country and live in the real world.
like I told my leftie friend, Putin did not write those emails he merely exposed them
and for that we owe him, Hell I’ll say, it Trump owes him, and ever since that traitor Snowden exposed our spying of our friends, I am sure its been open season on cyber spying against the USA even by our friends, and I don’t blame them.
Now do I know for sure Putin ordered the leaks for Trump? Hell no I don’t know for sure
Just like I don’t know for sure the sun will come up tomorrow morning, But I am willing to bet my last dollar the sun will raise tomorrow just like I am willing to bet my last $ that nothing happens in Russia with out Putin saying so, just ask those politician’s who are now living 6ft under the Siberian tundra who dared to run against him. And as to the CIA
get real man, I am no fan of the CIA however I am no fan of Hospitals either but they both serve a purpose.
So get real MISH,,, Go USA GO TRUMP He better drain the swamp or I will not be voting for him for years from now.
thanks Juan
I suspect most commenters know more about the situation than you think you do. As for draining the swamp, I doubt it. But at least he has a far better chance than Hillary who would have added to it.
The funny thing is, the report’s supporting evidence that Russia favored Trump relies on RT’s history of supporting U.S. anti-establishment movements and, among other things, Occupy Wall St and US left wing anti-fracking movements. This is literally comedy gold!
The elephant in the parlor is that Russia (through RT) not only developed a clear preference for Trump in the general election, it developed an equally clear preference for Bernie Sanders in the primary.
Basically they would have preferred anyone to an establishment, warhawk, neocon candidate like Hillary.
“One by one, mainstream media has fallen for “trust us” propaganda from the CIA.”
Fallen for?
The MSM COLLUDED with the Hillary campaign to defeat Trump, interfering in our election. The MSM is eager to support anything that can be used to de-legitimize Trump.
I have seen one of our local TV stations news show make incorrect statements, purposely to cast doubt on Trump’s comment at he time, vs the intelligence community. That same anchor was giddy when during the election, a “new poll” showed Hillary with a sizable lead.
Over 90% of media political contributions go to the democratic party. They are effectively, a wing of the democratic party.
Governments and power structures around the world are struggling with technological advances and freedom and movement of information. We have a generation running this country that can barely use email. They have no clue what it takes to secure information. When someone two generations younger tell them it goes right over their heads.
Look at podesta. He falls for simple phishing emails and has a stupid password. You cannot secure a network against such ignorance.
The hypocrisy is so extreme as to be nearly undefinable.
Didn’t Obama fly to Britain last year, MSM reporters in tow, on a US Taxpayer funded trip, and stand on British sovereign soil, and condensendingly attempt to influence the outcome of the once in a lifetime Brexit vote? Call me crazy, but that does appear to be a state sanctioned interference by the US in a foreign vote. Let’s also not forget, Obama followed up this overt influence-peddling campaign with a threat to our great friends in Britain, that if the vote was successful, they’d be “at the end of the queue” for trade deals with US.
And just for laughs: How many times in Hilary’s state department career has she openly discussed the legitimacy of foreign governments or tried to deviously, under-handledly or unfairly influence an election outcome? Bernie Sanders can initiate the answer to that question.
Across the board hypocrisy.
Yes,
Obama flew on Air Force One to Great Britain and openly told british people which way they should vote.
That level of arrogance from Obama actually helped Brexit to happen so Obama is a total failure in that regard also.
Exactly!!
Obama was and still is on every point a total and complete
Failure. With a capital F
Obama will disappear into the same dust bin as Carter and my beloved Bush family. H Clinton has rest her head on a pillow of cat hair and Ritz cracker crumbs.
I can now reveal that Vladimir Putin personally traveled to London, and personally threatened the British people that they would be at the back of the line for trade agreements if they so much as dared to think about Brexit… Putin thought he could get away with influencing the UK vote, but the CIA found detailed and damning evidence that it was him.
Also, Putin personally snuck into PM David Cameron’s residence and moved his secret email server to an unsecure basement — right after MI6 advised him not to put classified emails on such a server.
And it was Putin who took pictures of a shirtless Anthony Weiner in bed with his baby daughter, sending the pics to teenage girls in the US instead of photoshopping in a scary looking bear like Putin promised. Worse, Putin stored the creepy pictures on the same laptop where Hiliary’s top assistant was keeping illegal copies of classified emails that weren’t supposed to be in Hilary’s basement server.
Putin did all of this without the NSA having a friggin’ clue while it was happening — in spite of the NSA conducting illegal mass surveillance on US citizens. Putin also did it without anyone realizing he was missing from Russia, or without anyone knowing he was in the USA, and while making it look like he was in China — because Putin makes David Copperfield look like an amateur illusionist.
Oh, and it turns out that all the emails the DNC leaked — I mean Putin hacked — were completely accurate depictions of the contempt Hilary and her staff have for all Americans including her donors… Its just that she didn’t want anyone to have concrete proof that she is an arrogant contemptuous crook.
It all makes perfect sense now.
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What I don’t get is how 25% of the US population can possibly be stupid enough to buy into this rubbish. And considering the tens of billions of dollars the US intelligence services waste each year, couldn’t they come up with at least a plausible story?
About that report:
As a perspective on the CIA etc report
Our spy agencies praise RT for covering political parties outside the duopoly
and laud the accuracy of RT’s coverage of civil liberty issues
Of course, if the purposes of your organization include protecting our corrupt establishment and trampling the Bill fo Rights under foot, you may have a slightly different perspective on these issues.
Mr. Podesta, what is your password?
Password
Yes Mr. Podesta, what is your password?
Password
Nough said……
You just hacked the DNC server again!!!
The DNC server “hack” or inside leak according to Wikileaks is separate from the Podesta Gmail “hack” which was not a hack but just a phishing where idiots are told to change their password at some fake site.
DNC IT-expert however thought the phishing was legitimate so he emailed it was legitimate and instructed Podesta to change his password which he or his aides promptly did.
Mish,
I think you are doing a great disservice to the CIA with your article. You state the unclassified document has no hard proof of Russian involvement. I agree, but I’m not surprised because the hard proof is likely to disclose sources and techniques that would likely compromise their future capability and maybe put others at risk. I believe most of those at the CIA do their best everyday to protect us all.
Are you surprised Communist would try influence our election? I’m not and would expect them to try and our governments job is prevent it. Communist have had a long history of steering political influence going all the way back to early WW2 when the CIA was called OSS.
The CIA has no party affiliation and it is not unusual for high ranking career CIA serve both major political parties through their careers. When a President leaves office, I have never heard of a case where there was not mutual respect from the President to the CIA and vice-versa.
I take the CIA’s analysis a face value and they at least give some clarity to their confidence level in their conclusion. They are not perfect, but are the best a democratic society can provide.
Anyone who takes the CIA at face value when they are known liars, under oath, when the kidnap and torture the wrong people, when they get involved in overthrowing governments, and hid it all …. is a fool. A democratic society does not need this!
These people are liars, murderers, and torturers, at the top
https://mishtalk.com/2017/01/07/cia-liars-torturers-murderers/
Mish
Mish,
If you read the Senate report and the CIA response you will see there are very numerous discrepancy’s pointed out by the CIA. But to classify then all as you have is disgusting. It’s is like saying our military is nothing but barbarians!
Yes, they made mistake with EI techniques and they admitted to that. But the mistakes were made early in this program and in every case they sought legal advice on what they could and could not do. It was also approved at the highest level by elected officials in both the White House and Senate. Clearly, water boarding was the harshest of the EI, but it was only applied to a few and it also led to the courier for Bin-Laden and then to Bin-Laden himself. Compare this to what has been clearly documented techniques used by the Soviets, Germans (WW2), ISIS and host of others.
You espouse that they are inept, that they didn’t detect 9/11. Well after the Soviet Union crumbled after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the CIA capability was reduced because of the peace dividend. Maybe if wasn’t downsized the outcome might have been different.
I don’t anyone’s commentary at face value, including yours. I believe Hillary’s problems were mainly caused by-Hillary. Donald Trump’s main interest is Donald Trump and there will be another large scale terror attack planned for the USA. The CIA may be our best defense to prevent this so you should wish they successful.
Respectfully,
Waltermitty
Did you seriously just write that “after the Soviet Union crumbled after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the CIA capability was reduced because of the peace dividend. Maybe if wasn’t downsized the outcome might have been different.” ???
Guess which agency was spending tens of billions of dollars spying on the USSR, but didn’t know it was on the verge of collapse?
Hint: same agency that didn’t think the Shah of Iran was going to fall and leave the US embassy a hostage farm.
Second hint: same agency that didn’t realize their top al qaeda informant in Afghanistan had been compromised by al qaeda… who then used said informant to kill the CIA’s station chief in Afghanistan.
When you drop one winning touch down pass at one superbowl, people will make fun of you. When you drop three winning passes at three different superbowls? (actually a lot more than three) A high school drop out would know major changes are coming
Instead, you are trying to give us this email hacking bullshit?
Dear Walter Mitty:
You wrote that many “high ranking career CIA serve both major political parties through their careers”….
…you were supposed to serve the US public, not serve corrupt politicians of both parties. Obviously you forgot who actually pays your paycheck.
And for crying out loud man… this latest Russian / US election hacking bullshit is just too stupid to believe. “Career CIA officers” should be ashamed.
Are you naive enough to think every nation on the planet doesn’t attempt to influence other elections — especially the US? And are you actually dumb enough to think that US voters don’t know it?
And are you stupid enough to think Hilary’s endless stream of lies and criminal behavior didn’t influence far more votes than anything any foreign power could have done? Are you “intelligence” guys really that stupid?
Do you ever use email? The taxpayers who pay your salary do, and we are constantly told not to do the stupid things Hilary did with her illegal server.
I don’t know how many people voted “for” Trump, as opposed to voting “Hilary is too f-ing corrupt to be considered”. Whatever Putin did or didn’t do — it was a rounding error compared to Hilary shooting herself in the foot.
How can anyone trust the opinions published by CIA dingbats about foreign countries, when you can’t grasp US cultural trends that are blatantly obvious?
Pull your head out of your rear end and start acting like you passed kindergarten.
Dear Fred,
Read my post closely. The CIA serves the public through their elected officials-they do not hold town meetings. Do you even know anything about the CIA or their history? Your last sentence clearly identifies you as a man of the world that knows all the answers. If you think I’m supporter of Hillary you way, way off base. I think they are both the most disgusting candidates the country has ever had……and that takes in even George Wallace.
Respectfully,
Waltermitty
Walter, little boy… you seem to think only CIA agents know how an email server works or gets secured. The mistakes Hilary made disqualify her and her staff from running a high school email system — forget about a major diplomatic agency.
Your alleged knowledge of the OSS is very impressive if you are applying for a professor of history position at a college.
I don’t think any real spy — CIA or NSA or any of the 17 redundant bureaucracies — would even attempt to defend the ridiculous clown show that is currently going on in Washington.
A foreign government tried to influence US elections? Are you three years old? Of course they tried. And they tried when Obama was elected, and Bush, and Clinton and so on all the way back to when the King of England was trying to influence whether George Washington would be elected. Grow up Walter.
Did any of you so-called intelligence analysts notice the billions foreign governments were “donating” to the Clinton Foundation?
But your big hang up is that some DNC staffers leaked emails that showed Hilary is a liar, a crook, and is utterly contemptuous of middle class Americans?
And if you really know the first thing about the CIA’s history — you would know they have a bit of a credibility problem after WMDs, not to mention 9/11, and the “surprise” collapse of USSR, the bogus YouTube lie regarding Benghazi.
If CIA was serving the public, not just coming up with implausible stories to justify dumb decisions Bush / Obama already made … then CIA agents would have resigned in droves over the “WMD are a slam dunk” or the equally absurd “Benghazi was about a Youtube video”. And if you were even Americans, forget about CIA agents — you would have been sick to your stomachs when that perjuring turd James Clapper said US citizens can’t be trusted with our own security.
No one with integrity would still be sitting around now — much less making excuses for this Russian hacking nonsense
Fred,
Well Mr. Rodgers, one last reply then were done. I will also not stoop to the name calling. What is strange is that I actually think there are things we agree on.
Where did the comments about email server come from? I never said anything about email servers. Fred, I’m afraid you wouldn’t make a very good CIA analyst! I only commented on the classification of the CIA being inept and the call for all to be fired. Like generals and admirals, there are good ones, bad ones and occasionally…a really great one. Since you commented on history, isn’t the “Donalds” pick of General “MadDog” a believer in history that he travels with his own library? History does repeat.
The CIA is no different. They have been given a difficult mission and a set of rules that make the mission harder. Not saying the rules are not justified, just that different governments enforce different rules.
You start off your reply with “Walter, little boy”. Well, I’ve around the block a few times. Two tours in NAM, graduated with two advanced degrees and have had a career in designing IC’s
(you know those little chippie thing that are in things like cell phones). I have traveled on business to most of the countries in Europe, Far East with the most recent being Kiev,Ukraine for a couple of weeks before the election. While socializing at night it is not uncommon to discuss world politics. I think this gives me some view of the world.
I’ll say it again, my issue is the generalization of the CIA. You mention the failure of the WMD leading up to the Iraq war. But recall that Iran, UK, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and on and on though Saddam had these weapons. Saddam also wanted the surrounding countries to believe this also to maintain his power in the region. Unfortunately, he did too good of a job. The CIA has said this was a failure on their part. They did list in their reports some contradictions they found in analysis but the result was that it was more likely the WMD did exist.
I respect those that try their best to uphold the mission that the citizens have given the CIA, through their elected officials, to protect the USA.
Over and out.
I don’t claim to be a CIA analyst.
I do claim that spying on the Russians is practically the CIA’s reason d’etre… so if the Russians were hacking into Hilary’s unsecured basement server, it was the CIA’s job to know the Russian’s access to her thinking was a little too good. Why didn’t they?
I also claim that it is childish to feign surprise or upset that the Russians might try to influence a US election — especially given the CIA’s history of trying to influence elections all over the place. Even ignoring the CIA’s history, its childish to be surprised. That little boy, is the way it is.
But putting the country through this false hacking drama… just because Hillary lost? Why would any true patriot want to do that?
Walter, I would also like to remind you that we DID have a town hall meeting about the CIA back in the 1970s. The Church Commission I think it was called. Did you learn about that in your little history course?
The intelligence services were split apart and ordered NOT to spy on Americans. Period. No if’s, and’s, or buts. Every single US intelligence agent knew after the Church Commission that what Edward Snowden revealed was not legal.
Seems you don’t know as much about CIA history as you claim.
waltermitty,
The only problem with your “analysis” is that you are living in the past in 1950’s-1980’s.
Putin is NOT a communist, he is an ethno-nationalist who wants all russians to be russian including russianizing even the minorities (which I think is BAD) and he wants the russian government and russian people to control the riches Russia has.
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If the Yeltsin model of capitalism where everything was sold to private interests for nominal amounts enabling massive transfers of wealth to corrupt oligarchs in the 1990’s had continued in Russia then global billionaires would own all the oil fields in russia and own all the oil companies in Russia and own all the oil and gas pipes of Russia and russians would live in total misery and poverty.
Putin was named as his successor by Yeltsin apparently because he thought that Putin would be a similar oligarch crony as Yeltsin had been and continue giving russian wealth to international billionaires after it had been first given to russian billionaire oligarchs.
Putin turned out to be a russian ethno-nationalist instead of Yeltsin style oligarch-crony giving everything away for pittances while drunk on power and vodka.
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The US tacticians that helped Yeltsin get re-elected before Putins time helped him because he sold and gifted all the riches of Russia for nothing so US billionaires wanted Yeltsin in power to finish selling everything first to russian billionaire oligarchs who could then sell it for profit to western billionaires asset-stripping the country of Russia completely.
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Similar kind of ideas that gripped Russia in the 1990’s of “privatize everything quickly” including electric networks and electric companies because “private ownership is always more effective than government ownership” have been spread by american McKinsey consultants and other consultants throughout Europe and as a consequence most european countries have privatized electricity companies that were government owned or city owned and this has lead to increase in living costs which has hurt the poor the most because once privatized for cheap the new owners have always increased electricity costs and earned their “investment” back quickly and kept reaping big profits.
The current “populism” in europe has been boosted by electricity bills rising quickly and many people seeing that the privatizations of electricity companies and electricity networks was made totally incompetently by european politicians.
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Putin is a thug and he will keep power by changing laws as he sees fit and by controlling 90% of russian media (like anti-Trump establisment controls 90% of American media) and by buying regular russians votes by providing them services and welfare with the money Russia gets from oil through either owning the oil fields, owning 50+% of the oil companies or taking a cut from all gas and oil that leaves Russia through the russian government owning all oil and gas pipes out of Russia.
US democrats and most western european countries leading parties also buy voters with government welfare but USA and european countries fund this with increasing government debt.
The russian model of funding welfare with the riches the country has is much more sustainable.
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Putins biggest crime is that he is not a stupid drunk like Yealtsin ready to sell all the riches of russian land for a pittance so russians can be robbed blind first by russian billionaire oligarchs and then by western billionaires who act just like russian oligarcs but in the west they are called just billionaires…
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Every country should treat their natural riches like Russia treats it’s oil fields, gas fields, big oil companies, oil pipes and gas pipes…
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Billionaires should “work” for their wealth like Zuckerberg has done with Facebook and the billionaires who have become billionaires by asset-stripping countries through corruption to get the countries oil, gas, electricity etc. companies and infrastucture cheaply are thieves and oligarchs both in the west and in Russia.
waltermitty,
NONE of the 17 “intelligence” agencies have even examined the “hacked” DNC email system…
NONE.
Let that sink in to get a picture of the level of TOTAL INCOMPETENCE at FBI and CIA and others.
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CIA has basically become the National Enquirer of intelligence agencies with their interpretation of russians smiling or laughing.
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CIA is like girls in high school “she laughed when he gave a wisecrack response in class, OMG, they must be dating secretly”….
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Either CIA as a whole is totally incompetent or the current politically named democratic CIA leaders are totally incompetent.
Walter, do you see potential danger in a clandestine government organization managed mostly by unknown lifetime employees granted access to private and public sector secrets with no requirement to share information with citizens?
I contend DHS attempted to influence the election by their verified hacks into Georgia’s voter database, 10 known instances of it. Prove to me that was NOT their intent CIA/FBI/NSA/President Islama.
If the $43 billion budget (2010) spent on CIA/NSA/FBI/DHS/ABC/XYZ can’t protect our election process (which they admit they failed to do) then replace them ALL tomorrow. They’re a waste of our tax dollars.
Trump has crawfished again.
Trump has already crawfished on individual tax cuts and deporting illegal aliens. Now he is crawfishing on “Russian hacking.”
Trump’s famous slogan “Make America Great Again” continues to morph into “we would have healed Babylon but she cannot be healed” Jeremiah 51:9
Sun Jan 8, 2017
” Trump accepts U.S. intelligence on Russia hacking, top aide says ”
” Reince Priebus said Trump believes Russia was behind the intrusions into the Democratic Party organizations, though he did not clarify whether the president-elect agreed that the hacks were directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
“He accepts the fact that this particular case was entities in Russia so that’s not the issue,” Priebus said on “Fox News Sunday.”
Priebus’ comments marked a significant shift away from the repeated dismissals by Trump of Russian interference in the presidential election. ”
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN14S0O6