If there was ever any doubt who perpetual warmonger, Senator John McCain, wanted for US president, this headline explains: Russian cyberintrusions an ‘act of war’
Today, CCN writer Frida Ghitis repeats McCain’s claim with Putin’s ‘act of war’ against American democracy.
“Moscow’s influence campaign,” as the intelligence report calls it, blended a variety of means, including covert cyberactivity by Russian intelligence operatives, along with “with overt state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or ‘trolls’.”
Hysteria Continues
It would behoove fools like Ghitis to stop and think. Anyone who takes CIA allegations as facts has mush for brains.
The CIA Liars, Torturers, Murderers are worse than useless.
Republican Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham want tougher sanctions against Russia following the hacking scandal.
In a show of solidarity, McCain Visited Frontline Ukraine Troops in Anti-Putin Gesture on New Year’s Eve.
“We stand w/them in their fight against #Putin’s aggression,” McCain wrote in one tweet.
The irony is staggering. Ukraine is a mess because of US meddling. It’s not Russia that started or was responsible for Crimea and the war in Ukraine that ensued, it was the US.
On April 30, 2014, the Guardian reported It’s not Russia that’s pushed Ukraine to the brink of war.
Whether or not one believes the CIA had a hand in the overthrow of a democratically elected president (I do), the US has blood on its hands.
A flashback shows warmonger in chief, Senator John McCain was personally involved then too.
“America is with you,” Senator John McCain told demonstrators then, standing shoulder to shoulder with the leader of the far-right Svoboda party as the US ambassador haggled with the state department over who would make up the new Ukrainian government.
When the Ukrainian president was replaced by a US-selected administration, in an entirely unconstitutional takeover, politicians such as William Hague brazenly misled parliament about the legality of what had taken place: the imposition of a pro-western government on Russia’s most neuralgic and politically divided neighbour.
Putin bit back, taking a leaf out of the US street-protest playbook – even though, as in Kiev, the protests that spread from Crimea to eastern Ukraine evidently have mass support. But what had been a glorious cry for freedom in Kiev became infiltration and insatiable aggression in Sevastopol and Luhansk.
After Crimeans voted overwhelmingly to join Russia, the bulk of the western media abandoned any hint of even-handed coverage. So Putin is now routinely compared to Hitler, while the role of the fascistic right on the streets and in the new Ukrainian regime has been airbrushed out of most reporting as Putinist propaganda.
Acts of War
Dear Senator McCain: If meddling in foreign governments is an act of war, you are personally involved, with tremendous blood on your hands.
Bombs Dropped
As reported by Reason, The U.S. Dropped More Than 26,000 Bombs Last Year in at least seven countries.
Both the number of bombs and the number of countries being bombed was higher in 2016 than in 2015.
So here we are bombing the hell out of countries in undeclared wars, killing and injuring scores of innocent men, women, and children, interfering in foreign politics, starting the war in Ukraine, destroying Libya and Iraq, and creating ISIS, and these jackasses complain that Russia is guilty of war on the US when all Wikileaks did was disclose the truth.
Clearly, the US media and the US warmongers cannot stand the truth.
Related Article: CIA Liars, Torturers, Murderers: CIA Worse Than Useless
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Let us remember who this bastard actually is: He flew his jet over North Vietnam dropping bombs on houses, schools, hospitals, factories, etc. until he was shot down. he is only alive because the NVs are such civilized people. If a Vietnamese asshole was flying over Clearwater FL doing the same and I caught him, I would hack his fucking head off with a razor blade.
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Wow. Roger is a real badass.
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The north Vietnamese were not civilized people during the war, or maybe you never saw the videos of all the murdered bodies at the end of the war, when they could have been merciful and chose not to be.
Back to Mish,
I wish the media would quit using Mccain as the go-to guy for a story He doesn’t represent most republicans, and finished at the bottom of his class at West Point -not to mention how many aircraft he lost while piloting them.
There is plenty of video on you tube of him making questionable (that’s being charitable) arms deals with people and leaders we would later declare dangerous. Obviously, a lot of those weapons got into the wrong hands and American soldiers were killed as a result. He also was against using any means necessary to protect soldiers, although he usually voted for war.
Lied about Benghazi too:
http://www.infowars.com/caught-john-mccain-lies-about-benghazi-arms-deal/
I agree that he has blood on his hands, as does his little shadow, Lindsey Graham. I never understood how either of them won elections.
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And what about the networks, like Fox, that constantly parade McCain and other puppets of the MIC? Besides eliminating campaign donations, I’m sure the NSA has significant dirt on all of them. For example, I doubt being forced out of the closet would go ever well for Graham in SC.
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“Bomb bomb” McCain’s mission was to take out the heavily defended Hanoi power plant when he was shot down.
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So all that electricity was going to form into a huge communist lightning bolt and attack the US. FFS
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bombing civilian power plants is a prima facia war crime
McCain was a war criminal then and continues to be war criminal now
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I hate McCain but it does NO good to exaggerate or lie.
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Apparently, James Clapper doesn’t believe you. He has lied and exaggerated throughout his term leading the NSA, including giving perjured testimony under oath before Congress.
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There is, of course, a strong Russian argument for both Crimea and eastern Ukraine going Russian. To secede from a country is generally complicated, however. California might like to secede. Do you support it? Texans would almost certainly vote for secession. It’s never easy (ask citizens of the U.K.) and the military of a foreign power shouldn’t play a role.
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McCain is a pathetic liar. CIA is a liar. Both represent what needs to be removed from USA government to remove disgrace.
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I hate Arizona for re-electing McCain.
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I asked a friend in AZ about that, she pointed out the other choices were even worse.
I’m sure the repub neo-cons committee made sure there were no other reasonable repubs in the primary.
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How’s globalist democracy working out for you ??
Maybe it’s time to try something else.
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The US ($Dollar) Empire is dying before our very eyes, and totally explains this behavior that one would normally associate with a cornered, mortally wounded animal.
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His name should be McShame. The “singing canary” at the Hanoi Hilton, he gave up all USAF tactical information to the NV interrogators. After his release, and when in the Senate he fought hard against the search for missing POWS and consistently rebuffed all legislation to do so. He should be in prison and labelled a traitor.
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…but …but, his daddy was an admiral or something like that. I’m sure that means he’s the most qualified to be in the cockpit.
I mean, nowadays not so much. As it turns out the Navy already has enough cocaine addicted junior officers or else Biden’s son might still be in there. Instead, they had to let him go.
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Putin visited “St George” today for Orthodox Christmas.
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No one else here into symbolism ?
Putin is known to speak/act symbolically.
St George is the patron saint of Moscow.
St George on a white horse slaying the dragon is on Moscow’s flag and Russia’s Coat of Arms.
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That is so “Old School”.
Actually, I like Old School.
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Orthodox Christmas 2012 Putin gave an interview at the St Petersburg church in which he was secretly baptized. He said he was baptized on the feast day of the Archangel Michael.
I hoped Putin would be a St George, a St Michael… but sadly he turned out to be just another NWO globalist. I refuse to go down that same primrose path with Trump [although I did vote for him.]
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I believe the flag of St. George is what England uses.
Can’t say much else but the name George is found a lot in orthodox Christianity.
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The British flag [Union Jack] is the Cross of St George, Cross of St Andrew and Cross of St Patrick. I’m surprised antichrists haven’t banned it yet.
St George is the patron saint of Moscow. The Moscow flag and the Russian Coat of Arms have graphic of St George slaying a dragon. The Russia Navy flag is the Cross of St Andrew. St Andrew is the patron saint of Russia.
The Confederate Southern Cross is the Cross of St Andrew… it is now banned.
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The Russian navy flies the Cross of St. Andrew’s? Never knew that. Hope nobody mistakes it for a Scottish vessel.
Say, wasn’t John Paul Jones born a Scot? He founded the American navy and also served in the Russian fleet I think. Hmm, interesting.
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The Russian Navy flew the Cross of St Andrew in Tsarist times. In the early 1990s Tsarist symbols of state were resurrected [Double-Headed Eagle, St George, St Andrew’s Cross.]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Navy_Ensign
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Russia
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McCain represents what is wrong with Congress. No job should be so good that you would want to serve until you die of old age. His length of service and actions are a strong argument for term limits.
It was fun to watch Trump destroy McCain’s little boy Lindsey Graham during the primaries.
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We need TERM LIMITS for Congress.
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How trump plans to bypass the insiders:
“Background: The President-Elect understands that both the media and the secret intelligence agencies cannot be relied upon for truthful useful information. At the same time, OMB, Cabinet Members, and Congressional jurisdictions lack their own reliable intelligence (decision-support) capability offering holistic analytics and true cost economics toward a balanced budget and the eradication of waste (50% of the federal budget is documented waste). This is a management opportunity for OMB.
Recommendation: That the Director-Designate of OMB raise with Pence, Priebus, and Flynn the potential value of pushing the Press Secretary and the Press out to the National Press Club, re-purposing this space to house the National Security Advisor and a Grand Strategy Cell that works closely with the DD for Management at OMB, supported by an OMB Open Source Research Cell & Open Source Intelligence Production Unit that provide direct support of the President as well as the Cabinet & OMB while shareable with Congressional Committees, all co-located with Trump Studio for direct educational briefings to the public across all threat, policy, and budget domains. A Public Daily Brief, vastly superior to the President’s Daily Brief, (4% at best of what President needs to know, nothing for the Cabinet or Congress) can be produced, while the Public Briefing Team can support cross-country educational events that — combined with an online outreach program — strive to re-engage 100% of the public in the public enterprise. This initiative empowers the President with decision-support and public awareness such as neither the secret world nor the media (or the USG) can provide today”.
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Link to article: http://phibetaiota.net/2016/12/robert-steele-throw-the-press-out-of-the-white-house-create-the-presidential-media-open-source-intelligence-center-trump-channel/#more-122834
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McCain has ‘a-hole’ written all over his face. No idea why the fine folks of Arizona repeatedly reelect him. They say “He’s a war hero” but if you research the facts about his stay with the Viet-Cong I think you might find he’s not quite the hero he’s made out to be. I could never stand his rat-fink smile. Hopefully old age will catch up with him and recall him from office.
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I hate the people of Arizona for re-electing McCain.
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AZ GOP RINO Senator John McAnus is 80 years old. The country rejected his warmonger ideas when he ran for POTUS. Now, he has found a sidekick, Senator Lindsey Graham, who is even more bloodthirsty than McAnus. I lived in AZ when McAnus returned from Viet Nam and played his war hero status with a crutch and a limp. What piece of fecal matter.
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“We stand w/them in their fight against #Putin’s aggression,” McCain wrote in one tweet.
Whatever the situation, the truth remains that Russia invaded and is engaged with war in Ukraine. USA, UK and most importantly Russia are braking their promises made when Ukrainians were promised “safety guarantees” by the representatives of these countries. Saying this doesn’t make me a McCain lover.
“The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances refers to three identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994, providing security assurances by its signatories relating to Belarus’s, Kazakhstan’s and Ukraine’s accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The Memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers, the Russian Federation, the United States of America, and the United Kingdom. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[1]
The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10667111/Ukraine-pleads-for-Britain-and-US-to-come-to-its-rescue-as-Russia-accused-of-invasion.html
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With all those countries assuring your security at the same time… who needs enemies.
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Very true.
However as long as we just stare the doings of one man we refuse to see the bigger picture. Not seeing the forest from a tree so to speak.
McCain is just one person but the ideologies and strategies behind him are the things that people should be worried about. As Eleanor Roosevelt said:
“Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.”
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It is such a mess of interest in Ukraine that ‘international law’ is pretty much out the window. I agree that boundaries should not be unilaterally redrawn, but after that? Russia and US have UN veto power, there is no higher body, and certainly none that can effectively rule on these disputes in a way that is effective.
The only thing I can say in favour of Russia with regards is that it is their back yard. Russia tends to limit its hard action mostly to its own periphery to reinforce existing ties.
In short, the way the world is it is inevitable that people will step on each others toes. Bad policy is to completely ignore those that are damned in the process, as the undiplomatic supposition of rule, even over those that might be considered lacking virtue, is a recipe for open conflict. That western countries know this but continue should make us question. Calling names, accusing of being bad losers or weak and manipulative is no solution, it is more designed for gatheing domestic support than actually resolving anything. I don’t think Russia likes being labelled the world’s problem child, and we are not in a great position to judge by.
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Isn’t McCain the guy that got in a huff because Trump said (paraphrasing), “McCain got shot down over Vietnam, captured and held prisoner for several years. How does getting captured make him a war hero?”
Too many other people have been captured and held prisoner… but they aren’t parading themselves around as war heroes. And they certainly aren’t trying to start new wars.
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I still say there is a simple solution to this Russian war stuff. Give McCain and Clapper and Hillary and Obama and Soros and the other crooks some war paint and guns — and send THEM to go fight in Ukraine or Syria or Russia. Alone. Not with hundreds of secret service agents or marines guarding them. Just the lot of them.
Its easy to send other people’s kids to war. Lets see the people who think war with Russia is necessary put their own blood where their mouths are. The people of the US and people of Russia may not agree on a lot of things, but its nothing worth going war about.
The rest of the USA needs to refocus on fixing the economic mess we have here at home.
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I heard Trump is going to appoint Hillary ambassador to Libya, stationed in Benghazi. After all, “What does it matter?”
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Boy, has this site becomes the home to a whole lot of assholes.
I don’t like McCain and his politics but the story in your post and a previous poster is dead wrong about McCain’s conduct at the Hanoi Hilton. He was a target because his father was an Admiral and he would make good PR if they could break him. Lots of documentation from those that were prisoners at the same time and they clearly are supportive of him. He did not break and refused to sell out his fellow GI’s. I commend him for that.
But he is a lousy Senator as far as I’m concerned, but that is a decision for the voters in Arizona. He also has made poor choices of who to align with, remember the Keating 5 and the bank scandal.
Just don’t attack him for his military service. He did what he was ordered to do and he did it with dignity and courage.
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Plenty of people just did “what they were told to”
Did not hold up in court after WWII
The heroes in the Vietnam war were those who refused to go
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Very disappointed in you Mish. If you are saying the heroes are those that didn’t go then the ones that did go are…..what, stupid, barbarians, war lovers?? There were many in the US that thought we should not get involved in WW2 because it was a European problem. How do you think things would have turned out if many didn’t answer the call then? I think you do a disservice to veterans when you make statements like that.
People serve for various reasons and the same goes for those that refused. I admired Mohammad Ali for his principals and he willingly suffered the consequence. Many of those who refused to go because it was inconvenient to their lifestyle.
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” There were many in the US that thought we should not get involved in WW2 because it was a European problem. How do you think things would have turned out if many didn’t answer the call then? ”
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One thing is certain… there would not be a Merkel traitor committing genocide against ethnic Germans.
Ironically it was the “America First Committee” who wanted to keep the US out of a war in Europe.
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Helio, you are comparing oranges and apples, a no-go. WW2 was the last “good war”, when you could know for certain who the enemy was. The Vietnam war was a complete waste, it was obvious at the time. I know those who fought there were being patriotic, but they were misled, and LBJ knew it, that’s why he could not continue. The best thing Tricky Dicky ever did was to get us out of that doomed to fail involvement.
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” WW2 was the last “good war”, when you could know for certain who the enemy was. ”
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You sure about that ?
Allied victory in WW2 enabled Stalin’s evil antichrist Bolsheviks to enslave half of Europe. Russians who had fought along side Germans to try to liberate Russia from communism were handed over to Stalin who executed them.
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You should research the accounts of some of McCain’s fellow POW’s to include his Senior Ranking Officer Colonel Ted Guy.
You may find them of interest.
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Helio — perhaps you need to read carefully.
I wrote that McCain and Trump got into a spat over McCain’s alleged war hero label. I think its great that McCain and the other Hanoi Hilton prisoners at least have a cohesive story about what happened — unlike pseudo-ketchup head Kerry who can’t make his mind.
I didn’t say I agreed with Trump or with McCain on McCain’s performance as a prisoner — I only said being a great prisoner (if true and however you define “great” in that context) is a rather strange thing to brag about.
I also stand by my comment that there were a lot of US military personnel who did amazingly patriotic things — more valuable to the war effort and without getting captured — and the US “thanked” them by leaving the veterans homeless and uncared for all these years.
I don’t see McCain sacrificing his Congressional perks or his living standards to help any of those vietnam veterans. I don’t see McCain championing improvements in VA hospitals (which are a disaster and national embarrassment). McCain’s public relations gambit in response to Cheney/Bush torturing prisoners at Guantanamo makes me wonder if McCain learned anything when he was a POW.
And as both a veteran and a former POW — I would expect McCain to have learned that war is sometimes a necessary evil, but it is never ever something to be pushed for. McCain’s warmonger status completely negates whatever he did/didn’t do as a Vietnam POW.
I know a dozen Vietnam veterans whom I think are 1000x more worthy of the title “war hero” than McCain. I am equally certain that every one of them would punch my lights out if I said that to them — because they think war is hell and there is no such thing as a war hero. They would start yelling at me about all the guys who didn’t make it back, and how decades later we still don’t know why they were there in the first place.
McCain’s “war hero” self-aggrandizement is not the behavior of a hero. It is run of the mill self promotion that we see way too much of in Washington DC.
Trump had to fit his criticism into a 15 second sound bite (or 140 character tweet bite) — and perhaps “getting captured” wasn’t the thing to focus on… But McCain is less of a hero than 1000s of other Vietnam vets who don’t get Congressional perks and certainly don’t promote another war.
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Fred,
If you think I’m on the war monger, your 180 degrees out of phase. You say you know a dozen Vietnam vets, now you know a bakers dozen. Two tours, 67 & 68. Now to McCain.
He did not choose to get shot out of the sky, he was ordered to fly very a risky mission over Hanoi and to be successful required flying through heavy Flak. After capture, he was taken to the Hanoi Hilton where he received “medical attention”. One of his cellmates was George Day, the most decorated airman in US history. It is Day’s accounts of McCain’s actions while a prisoner and reports from a lot of other prisoners that I base my conclusion that he acted with honor. You notice that I didn’t call him a hero and I don’t believe I have ever heard McCain refer to himself as a hero. That is what the media and PR people do! He followed the POW Code of Conduct as set by the US military. Conclusion- Like it or not, John McCain acted with honor and integrity while a POW.
John McCain the US Senator is a different story. I did not vote for him when he ran for President and I also did not like the roadblocks put up on the POW/MIA issue and a list of other issues. But then again, the US Government seems to have done this many times before (Korea & WW2) WRT POW/MIA.
Another person made the comment about WW2 being the last good war. I disagree. There are no good war’s. You only hope that if you go to war that it is really necessary.
And finally Mish’s comment that the real hero’s are the ones that refused to serve. I wonder how your your dozen vets would feel about that? I’m sure some enlisted on their own and some were drafted. But they went and served! Those that knew they could not in conscience take a human life were usually allowed non-combat duties. That is what patriots do. Was Vietnam War a terrible US mistake? Hell yes and I’m sure most of your friends will agree. We hope our elected representatives will make the right decisions and we must question those decisions, but we need to follow those decisions unless its a clear case conscience, otherwise the rule of law and order will cease to exist. When President Obama was elected (I did not vote for) I wished him success and for Donald Trump (whom I also did not vote for), I also wish him success. My grandchildren may depend on it.
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Great Comment. That would STOP all these war mongers dead in their tracks.
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President Trump’s first task ought to be exposing and continually highlighting the murderous and treasonous acts of Senator McCain.
McCain has always gotten a pass from the rest of the government and MSM for his transgressions. Hardly a word is spoken in MSM about the propaganda tape he made for N. Vietnam as their ‘prisoner’ of war (which can be found on YouTube). The National Archives has more of these tapes and I’d like to hear what they say.
If McCain was willing to make a propaganda tape (after supposedly being tortured), did he give them any information leading up to the Tet offensive which began just a few months after he was captured crashing his fighter jet? Was he serviced by prostitutes for any information?
Did McCain encourage his friend, Mikheil Saakashvili, former Georgia president, to attack S. Ossetia in 2008 (while Putin was attending the Beijing Olympics)?
McCain’s phony heroism as a POW is a media creation. McCain has never had a private-sector job in his life except when he worked for felon Jim Hensley whose daughter McCain married (after dumping his first wife who waited for him while he was a POW).
As President, Trump will have access to intelligence data about many government misdeeds. He should find them and use them against the neocons like McCain who have seized control over the USG’s foreign policy establishment. The guys and gals are not going to go voluntarily or quietly but they need to go.
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McCain loves war, and probably feels it builds character or some such thing. Technically you could call almost any slight an act of war (e.g. Remember the Maine, Gulf of Tonkin). Though the hypocrisy underlying McCain’s war rants are rich, I think the underlying truth is that he is a Warrior at Heart and Loves Being at War, maybe even Misses it. All War All the Time would no doubt make McCain a happy man.
McCain got trounced by Obama in 2008 for good reason. People did not want a War Monger in the White House, even if it meant a lot of socialist and PC nonsense, Obamacare and an expanded welfare state. Anything that happened in USA foreign policy after 2008 was more Prez Obama and Sec. of State Hillary. Trump made a big issue of Hillary being the worst Sec. of State in the history of the republic, and I suspect that helped cost her the election, even if she is in denial and blames the FBI, Russia, et al.
Neo-cons have had a good run since Bill Clinton brought them into power: lots of invasions, regime changes, collateral damage, many refugees among the living and ample chaos sown. McCain’s War Cries are not likely to carry the day without Hillary in the White House. The USA is lucky Trump had enough margin to overcome all the cheating in Michigan and prevail, though Hillary fans seem to think otherwise and are blind to the War Monger proclivity she shares with McCain. Why people want a war with a Nuclear Russia that could destroy every major USA city is beyond me.
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Is it an act of war when the US government hacks computers in other countries or manipulates their elections? Tit for tat. What’s the big deal if foreign governments really do use information war techniques and hacking to influence US elections?
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Was it an act of war when the US government allied with revolutionaries who destroyed Russia’s almost 1000 year old monarchy ??
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In the large majority of cases hacking computers or even changing election outcomes makes little difference to the actual governance of society since the choices we’re given on election day come down to either Dracula or Frankenstein. Fake democracy.
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10 companies I would enjoy seeing change their business model or go out of business.
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Mcain should be i jail
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Thank God he was never elected president. He needs to follow harry reid into retirement.
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Mcain needs more Jail time
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Good one.
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Trump is no angel but he was right about McCain.
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From about a year ago.
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There can only be one reason that McCain got re-elected when there was such an outstanding person running against him – Once again, the Russians hacked the Arizona election. I’m still shocked – the criminals running CIA have not yet picked up on this.
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McCain’s biggest crime is lobbying for the arming of Free Syrian Army which was just an ISIS front because those arms ended up with ISIS when FSA troops “switched” to ISIS after getting arms.
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There should be full investigation into whether McCain, Hillary Clinton and CIA leadership KNEW that they were actually supporting ISIS when they were arming FSA.
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If they KNEW they are guilty for the genocide sunni-ISIS has been committing against shia-alawites, christians and yazidis in Syria.
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The CIA should be forbidden by charter from arming anybody because they are incompetent and usually only make matters worse and more people end up being killed with the arms CIA delivered.
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If I were Vladimir Putin, I would be thinking that everything was going pretty well for me. I got my lap dog as president. I have the American public doubting their own government and its intelligence services. I have a sizable percentage thinking that Russia is their new best friend. Yes it’s great to be the leader of the KGB these days.
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I don’t need Putin to tell me NONE of my leaders [federal, state and local] have my best interest at heart. I know for a fact they are ALL evil demented globalist toadies like Merkel who obviously hates ethnic Germans and works overtime to disinherit and destroy them. What is amazing to me is why so many of my peers willingly bow to their own genocide.
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As for Putin… he’s a globalist like all the others… not the St George, the St Michael, I hoped he’d be.
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Hi John. Do you know that being skeptical of the government is very basic Amercanism?
(I really don’t expect an answer).
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John do you mean the same US intelligence services that told US that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction – Thus giving justification for the U.S. invasion of a sovereign nation, Iraq? And John are you talking about the same US intelligence services who armed and trained ISIS and sent ISIS into Syria to invade, kill and destroy innocent people in Syria? Those U.S. intelligence services John – Just to name a FEW of their grossly misleading intelligence lies?
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Bravo, Mr. Shedlock.
I am a longtime reader on this blogsite and this rates as one of the best threads I can ever recall. Excellent work, keep up the great job
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I have a few things to say about Mr. McCain but I’m Canadian and don’t want my country bombed. As Americans, you have a slightly better chance of not being bombed by the warmonger.
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“It would behoove fools like Ghitis to stop and think.”
The learned skill of critical thinking and analysis obviously isn’t something that most modern “journalism” majors have developed. Cognitive/confirmation bias definitely is.
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“On April 30, 2014, the Guardian reported ‘It’s not Russia that’s pushed Ukraine to the brink of war.'”
From a person who represents what used to be “conservative” (paleoconservative) before the warmongering neo”conservatives” took over:
NATO Expansion: A Dangerous Folly
July 8, 1997
by Pat Buchanan
http://buchanan.org/blog/pjb-nato-expansion-a-dangerous-folly-376
NATO Expansion: Unnecessary and Provocative
April 30, 1998
by Pat Buchanan
http://buchanan.org/blog/pjb-nato-expansion-unnecessary-and-provocative-273
What can actually be done about this considering that most people don’t know a darn thing about it and never will? Nothing. “Situation normal” as it has been for most of US history. Other nations being in the same position of power would do exactly the same things and their populations would be equally ignorant/misinformed about it. Human beings and their governments are fundamentally the same everywhere. Always have been and will be for a very, very long time. There will be no “Star Trek Federation” until humans EVOLVE away from their fundamental “fifth great ape” nature which underlies their actions.
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McCain is the perfect example for why short term limits are essential for any real reform.
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Trump has crawfished again.
Trump has already crawfished on individual tax cuts and deporting illegal aliens. Now he is crawfishing on “Russian hacking.”
Trump’s famous slogan “Make America Great Again” continues to morph into “we would have healed Babylon but she cannot be healed” Jeremiah 51:9
Sun Jan 8, 2017
” Trump accepts U.S. intelligence on Russia hacking, top aide says ”
” Reince Priebus said Trump believes Russia was behind the intrusions into the Democratic Party organizations, though he did not clarify whether the president-elect agreed that the hacks were directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
“He accepts the fact that this particular case was entities in Russia so that’s not the issue,” Priebus said on “Fox News Sunday.”
Priebus’ comments marked a significant shift away from the repeated dismissals by Trump of Russian interference in the presidential election. ”
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN14S0O6
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Sooner or later Trump has to address the matter from his own lips. So far he has neither confirmed nor denied the Priebus attribution. Until it comes from Trump – the jury is out.
Certainly, he has not condemned the Russian government. On the contrary, he’s done quite the opposite.
Withhold judgement until you hear the rest of the story.
Trump is unlike any former President-Elect. Each move is part of a strategic package of moves towards victory.
Patience. Give the man room to work. He hasn’t even been sworn in yet. Discount words. Focus on outcomes.
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I don’t buy the excuse that Trump’s own hand-selected people are speaking contrary to Trump.
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Great points Atossa. Trump was a businessman – Now he’s a politician and a big Unknown.
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You need to keep in mind that Trump is walking through a minefield. He’s surrounded by establishment thugs on Capital Hill. If he comes out swinging before he’s even sworn in he’s going to get decked. He’s only one man. So he has to wage a smart fight.
We know Trump understands the problems plaguing America. He’s made that blatantly clear on the campaign trail – unlike all the others that went before him. We also know he has a propensity to rock the boat and piss people off. We know he’s a smart guy and a master strategist. Otherwise he wouldn’t be worth billions and he wouldn’t have won both the GOP primary and the presidential election.
At this point giving up on Trump is premature and counterproductive. He’s the only remnant of hope this country has left.
I expect a few head-fakes from Trump along the way, considering that he’s swimming in a pool of sharks. No way can he go toe to toe with the establishment thugs and survive. But I think you’ll be surprised 2 years from now on what he was able to accomplish. Don’t go for the head-fakes. Keep your eye on the ball and focus on outcomes.
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” You need to keep in mind that Trump is walking through a minefield. He’s surrounded by establishment thugs on Capital Hill. If he comes out swinging before he’s even sworn in he’s going to get decked. He’s only one man. So he has to wage a smart fight. ”
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I’ve heard all of this before… with Putin. I refuse to go down that primrose path again.
Putin was first touted as a Christian nationalist. But what he said and did told otherwise and it spoke volumes. Putin would praise and promote antichrists and communists while abortion and homosexuality remained legal. When I questioned that… I was given the same song and dance how Putin was one man among enemies and give him time. 17 years later, Putin is still a globalist who honors anitchrists, communists and the hammer and sickle flag… abortion and homosexuality are still legal. Putin recently dedicated a huge new mosque in Moscow. He is the Merkel of Russia.
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Exercising ones freedom of speech, is never an act of war. Neither is supporting anyone else who does so, including by helping pay for their upkeep. Nor from speaking about things you hear from someone, without first verifying that some tax feeders in Washington has OK’ed that said someone, is not “divulging” something that don’t benefit them personally. And so on, and so on.
He who discloses, always and everywhere has the moral high ground over he who crawls around in the shadows, conspiring to keep knowledge away from others.
If McVain wanted to do something useful, he could spend his wife’s money repaying Putin in kind: “leaking” info about him. Then he would, just like Putin supposedly did, have made the world a better place, by making more knowledge and information available to the people of the world. Which is, again, always and everywhere a good thing. Noone is better off clueless than clued in. Misinformed than informed. The only ones dumb enough to fall for that claptrap, that “we” “need” secrets, are the same back markers who once fell for the equally silly idea that niggas were best kept illiterate.
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McCain went off the deep end years ago. I half expected a ‘You can’t handle the truth’ moment from him during testimony.
It seems like the CIA report is basically a report that Russia is doing what it’s been doing for over 60 years. There’s nothing specific about the past year or so that stands out.
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