In the wake of Trump’s seven-nation travel ban that left legal residents stranded overseas or detained in US airports, came a flurry of protests, judicial rulings, and actions including a reversal by the White House.
Judge Blocks Parts of Trump’s Refugee Ban
The Wall Street Journal reports Judge Blocks Parts of Trump’s Refugee Ban.
U.S. District Judge Ann Donnelly issued the stay after the American Civil Liberties Union and other civil-liberties advocates asked for an emergency motion temporarily stopping U.S. authorities from forcing incoming refugees to return to their home countries.
At a court hearing Saturday night, the judge said these deportations could cause “irreparable injury” to the refugees who face threats in their home countries or have family members already living here.
After Judge Donnelly’s ruling, federal judges in Alexandria, Va., Seattle and Boston issued similar rulings barring the removal of detained individuals who had filed lawsuits in their jurisdictions. In Boston, U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs took it one step further and said no one arriving in Logan International Airport could be detained solely on the basis of the executive order.
Protesters Gather at Airports
The Wall Street Journal reports Protesters Gather at Airports to Denounce Refugee Ban.
Protesters gathered at major airports across the country on Saturday to denounce President Donald Trump’s executive order restricting entry by some foreign nationals to the U.S.
Hundreds of people gathered at John F. Kennedy International Airport to protest the detention of two Iraqi men as a result of the refugee ban, in a demonstration that grew in strength as word spread of more travelers being held or prevented from entering the U.S.
The protests extended to other airports across the nation. A crowd of at least 400 protesters blocked a street in front of the San Francisco International Airport, while Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport was the site of a demonstration drawing at least 1,000 protesters.
Green-Card Holders Are Exempt from Travel Restrictions
In a sudden reversal, no doubt forced by judicial actions and protests, Trump reversed course. The White House now says Green-Card Holders Are Exempt from Travel Restrictions.
A senior White House official said on Sunday that foreign nationals with legal permanent residence in the U.S. wouldn’t be affected by Friday’s executive order restricting entry of visa holders and refugees from seven Muslim-majority countries.
White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus said green-card holders from the countries designated in the order could face extra scrutiny at U.S. points of entry under immigration officials’ existing authority, but said the order “doesn’t affect them.” Green-card holders are foreign nationals permitted to live permanently in the U.S.
“As far as green card holders moving forward, it doesn’t affect them,” he said on ABC News.
On CBS he said, “The executive order itself is not placing further burdens on people that hold green cards.”
Small Price Theory
“The upside being the greater protection of our borders, of our people, it is a small price to pay,” said senior White House adviser Kellyanne Conway on Fox News Sunday. “This whole idea that they’re being separated and ripped from their families, it’s temporary.”
Mish Positions
- Trump’s Ban: Poorly thought out and implemented.
- Protests: Reasonable. People are allowed to protest. Some did.
- Judicial Rulings: Correct.
- White House Reversal: Too late, damage was done.
- Small Price Theory: Idiotic. It’s always a “small price” when someone else has to pay. US drone policy is under the same asinine theory. It allows the US to drop bombs in seven countries, at least one of which is an ally. We have killed or injured thousands of innocent men, women, and children allegedly to protect the US, but always making more enemies than we kill. The US has been involved and remains involved in numerous illegal and unconstitutional undeclared war actions.
If it’s unconstitutional, it’s not a small price by definition.
For further discussion please see “Small Price to Pay”.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Detaining foreigners who have no right to live or travel here is a small price to pay to protect our borders, our country, and our people.
What part of ‘America First’ don’t you understand?
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What part of adhering to rule of law don’t you understand? The judges were correct.
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Trump is adhering to the rule of law.
The people complaining about his actions are used to getting away with it for too long.
Again, foreigners have no ‘right’ to live in or travel to the US.
There’s a new sheriff in town. Get used to it.
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The Liberals are going to have to get use to the laws of the US being enforced
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Sounds like a true fascist to me…..Even Dr. Seuss saw through this and mocked it.
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“Trump is adhering to the rule of law.”
And “rule of law” is nothing but an excuse for arbitrary rule, as long as laws , and at least as critically their interpretations, are not very strictly limited in reach.
I’m fully aware the progressives have had great success indoctrinating the gullible to believe “Rule of Law” is some sort of sacred argument ender. Convenient for them, as they are the ones writing and interpreting them, in all their arbitrary glory. But that doesn’t make the nonsense any more valid than anything else the progressives have involved themselves with, since they got their start 150 years ago.
Laws are ultimately to be judged by their adherence to decent and sustainable behavior. Trump may well be right that those wishing to cross the US border inbound need to be subjected to stricter scrutiny with regards to risk of causing harm to Americans. But you don’t do that by, without warning, detaining people at airports and messing up the lives and travel plans of people, for no other reason than to get your captive dittohead brigade to believe you are somehow “tough” on something. Instead, you present your position, supporting arguments, decision, and an implementation date far enough out to allow most of those affected to alter their plans with minimal disruption.
The precedence set by this kind of arbitrariness, does nothing but make the US come across as even less of a trustworthy partner for anyone, than it already does. “We’ll impose any amount of inconvenience on anyone, just because our new orange haired Chavez impersonator feels it flatters his vanity. And, like eff you, there’s a new sheriff in town!! And, like, my sheriff is bigger than your sheriff! Yeeeeah; incompetent, inconsequential little me, gets to ;play tough by clenching my fist and stooping my boots, as some tax feeder harass someone else. Yippie!!!”
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The problem is when lefties to it ……it’s ok
When Trump does it ……it’s magically not ok.
We’ve had 8 years were the left was perfectly ok with bending and breaking the rules at will. Now you have to sleep in the bed you’ve made.
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No.
The real problem is acting like a bunch of idiots. That some other group, of known idiots, act like idiots too doesn’t somehow make acting like an idiot any less idiotic.
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Although clearly it was dumb to include green card holders (illegal), I still like it. What part of getting blown up don’t you understand, Mish.
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Poor Mish thinks the Constitution is a global document that guarantees rights to foreigners.
No wonder he is also a free trade/free movement globalist.
Sad!
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“We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
Thomas Jefferson
, who, you know (or at least ought to), was instrumental in writing the darned constitution….
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Oh look, another idiot who doesn’t understand the LEGAL facts concerning the constitution.
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Stuki you referred to the Declaration of Independence NOT THE CONSTITUTION.
Neither is really a global document. While the D.O.I. guiding principles are nice it’s not really a legally binding document like the Constitution and even that is not global. If you want it to be global then be ready for global enforcement. We’re gonna need a bigger military for that.
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@phxfreddyii
Yes I did. The two were written by the same guys. Who understood that rights were given by the Creator. To every man alike.
Not by a bunch of tax feeders, to those they feed off of and dominate.
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You are kidding yourself if you think judges are not politicized. This has nothing to do with the law. It is all politics. The truth be told, America has moved so far left, that any attempt to pull it back to the center will cause revolts on all levels. Major civil unrest is baked in. I am beginning to think that predictions of America breaking into regional countries may happen after all.
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The plot thickens…
“Make America Great Again” = “we would have healed Babylon, but she can not be healed.”
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??????
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Rather ironic considering many have made an analogy between Trump and Cyrus.
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Obomber’s 26,000 bombs tops even the idiot bush. That is your Cyrus.
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Cyrus wouldn’t need bombs… he used his intellect to conquer Babylon.
Cyrus’ troops did not make an overt frontal assault on Babylon. Cyrus diverted the water of the Euphrates River which enabled his troops to secretly enter the city of Babylon by covertly going under Babylon’s invincible wall that was too strong to breach and conquered Babylon by strealth.
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oops…
…. Cyrus conquered Babylon by STEALTH.
Ironic that Trump’s other main campaign themes is building a wall.
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I agree with Mish The ban that Trump implemented by executive order was very poorly planned and executed. If this incompetence is any indication of Trump’s modus opereandi he will be a one term president.
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…just as poorly planned and implemented…
just as ObamaCare?
That didn’t go off without a hitch
As with everything…when new wheels go into motion the kinks will have to be adjusted
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Trump is moving quickly to keep promises made and to appease his base. Thus a ham fisted policy based on good intentions. It’s one thing to blitz the media with EO’s, but losing in the courts is a losing position.
On another note, if all the protesters would turn their energies toward anti-war and anti-empire, many of these problems would just go away.
We should be sending tractors and engineers to repair the damage we have done with the weapons and mercenaries we have been funding.
If we spent 500 billion a year helping 3rd world countries instead of bombing them, maybe they would like us more.
I am not advocating spending that money but if we are going to waste it, I chose helping rather than hurting.
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Exactly.
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Trump is not appeasing his base. I don’t think the guy thinks the way your tiny Obama or tiny Bush think. He won’t be a one term president. You can get that hope out of your head right now. You lefties have cried enough. We’ll be out of tissues till 2030 and can’t afford you crying in 2020
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No, the timing and implementation was PERFECT. If you announce it ahead of time you only get a bigger cluster f*** as folks race for the airports. The Dems can scream all they want. There’s nothing unconstitutional about limiting immigration. And everybody knows it (even the ones that deny it). .
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Obama Did this too. Where was the media and public firestorm at that time?
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First Trump has to last a term. Then, if he dodges impeachment, eh can run for reelection.
If he had the minimal good sense (or competent advisors) he would not have objected to permanent residents or people currently on airplanes, and would not have made a fool of
himself in public.
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Who cares , Trump means business , I have a green card live in NZ , it is much easier for me to get a 90 day card than use my green card , you would think the sky is falling in . You Americans need to live some where else for a time and then you will understand why the rest of the world gets envious & jealous of the USA .
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These are paid trolls that seem to show up on Zerohedge, Mish and other websites that are influential when they think they can get mileage. This sort of thing really ratcheted up under Obama. I suspect Soros was doing this in the beginning and then under Obama the CIA et al got involved.
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Rookie mistake. Not sure who was advising him here, but it was bad advice that made him look like fools are in charge.
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Yep! Rookie mistake. And his advisers are supposed to catch this stuff. But he’ll get better – and his heart was in the right place. Look after us, the US us!
Sorry, but we don’t owe anyone outside the US ANYTHING. They are ALL GUESTS. And therefore have to go by House Rules…..
…or not…….and then they can stay ‘home’, wherever THAT is…..
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“…or not…….and then they can stay ‘home’, wherever THAT is”
That’s the problem, BillBob Texas. They don’t have a home. A refugee is someone seeking refuge. That’s why parents put to sea with their children in overcrowded, unseaworthy vessels? They are condemned to drift or else be kept from drifting, as Bob said.
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Well, Bobby – their “home’ is where they started their journey. For whatever reason, they did not like the “rules” where they were. So…if they want to go somewhere else, they have to abide by the new Rules at the new Place.
They do NOT have the right to change places – and then Demand whatever Rules they want at the new place.
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I agree. If we admit them, then they must obey our laws.
There, we agree on something, and something important.
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OK, Trump is a big meanie inconveniencing some foreign nationals from 7 yahoo lands, but thats better than playing “muslim roulette” with improperly vetted potential bomb throwers in our midst.
As far as protests go, so what, let them slip into their pink pussy hats and wail away. They’ve got years of bitchin ahead of them!
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The protesters have no idea what their actions are going to make possible.
Civil War II approaches…
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The left is already unhinged … !!!!!
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They should be protesting war.
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Another irony when they are drafted… and escaping to Canada is not as easy as they might think.
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The Democrat nonsense is all about setting the battle field for a Trump impeachment. This has been going on sense right after the election. They don’t get that their actions have precluded a Trump impeachment: Trumpers will never accept it (evidence can be manufactured). But Dems are stupid so if they get a few Rs to join them they’ll try it. THAT’S how the civil war starts.
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The more often I see them call for impeachment – HOORAY !
The more often I see them try to put a Black Muslim into head the DNC – HOORAY !
The more often I see Nancy Pelosi stand up and say ANYTHING – HOORAY !
The more often I see Chuckie Schumer delay, delay, delay – HOORAY !
The more often I see nut-jobs with purple hair praising democrats – HOORAY !
The more often I see lawless thugs shooting each other and blaming guns – HOORAY !
The more often I see homeless young druggies in the streets protesting Trump – HOORAY
The more…well…you get the idea………
Gotta’ LUV the Dem’s name all over all of those – HOORAY !
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Sorry didn’t mean to spell your name wrong as it was accidental!
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Bobby, most of the Democrats I know in my neighborhood would rather have Trump than Pence as they see him as politically smart enough to actually not make these rookie mistakes and they don’t want to see the social issues Pence would stick up their *****
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Well, the list of countries that were banned,,,, It was Obama’s list of countries that posed a security risk.
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Obama with the help of Hillary Clinton made a mess of America and the Middle East
It will be no easy task to fix
But it can be accomplished
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1) Maybe implementation could have been better.
2) OK, but they were sure attention whores for the Left Wing media to trounce Trump.
3) I call Bullshit
4) The word “Damage’ is too strong, what, maybe a dozen families affected ?
5) Negligible impact, most all laws or corporate changes cause “Small price to pay” theories to emerge.
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It’s sad when folks go wobbly when Trump is delivering on his promises. If a promise turns out to be unconstitutional the courts can sort it out. You don’t stop working on promises because somebody on the internet says a promise is unconstitutional.
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I’m waiting for Trump to fulfill his campaign promise to deport ALL illegal aliens. I voted for him for that to be implemented. If Trump does not deport all aliens here in the USA illegally, then he has defacto declared the entire USA a sanctuary city and has no grounds to punish any other sanctuary city.
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it’s only been a couple of days.
I would think Trump would go after those who have overstayed their visas next.
some of these 90 day fiancée type guys seem to be getting unhinged.
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Before the liberal globalist cultural marxists destroy… first they change the language. Their term for illegal aliens is now, “dreamers.” After all, only the heartless could deport “dreamers.”
Btw… if I hear another bleeding-heart liberal refer to the “little Syrian boy” propaganda, my head is going to explode. But at least they have moved beyond the old propaganda, throwing babies out of incubators.
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The real fun begins when Trump turns the Admin’s attention towards George Soros and dismantles his operations.
Hey Mish, you don’t have any connections to Soros, do you?
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Democrat Party = Soros = Obama = Hillary = ORGANIZED CRIME … !!!!!
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You forgot the Bush family.
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Ironic that George HW Bush went into the hospital before Trump’s inauguration.
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He never said anything about that, but Soros never paid taxes on 7 billion dollars in gains he made… maybe the IRS can finish that asshole off for us (wink, wink). It is the thing that dreams are made of though.
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Just a hiccup.
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Yesterday, CNN showed video of a huge number of anti-Trump protesters at the Seattle airport blocking and harassing Seattle air travelers. I had to giggle at the irony of liberals messing in their own sandbox.
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Like CNN counts for anything. Go to youtube and look at all their trollers and dislikes. Just watch and see when the merger of Time Warner and AT&T is complete… CNN will be spun off. It’s a loser watched by practically nobody and that’s why they are grandstanding bullshit issues.
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Apparently you missed my point for posting it. The dark irony made me laugh. It’s a kind of psy-op Putin might invent.
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Seattle, of all places, where the unwed mothers gather at Starbucks according to Tom Leykis. I’m just waiting for those protesters to attack the wrong guy and have the police ignore the complaint. It is going to happen.
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Thanks a mill for all your posts Mish.
“Trump’s Ban: Poorly thought out and implemented.”, was also my first response – on second thought that “error in judgment” may be too obvious. Trump’s team knew what the various reactions would be and now his team can say Trump did as much as possible under the current laws of the land. Or am I giving them too much credit?
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There is much validity to your thought
It could indeed have been planned – I will comment more later
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That was my thought too. Trump wants a confrontation and is setting the stage.
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I agree. Bush and Obama always acted like they were feeling their way all the time. Trump acts like he knows exactly what he is doing. Leading in chaos is actually an effective method of management if you are bold enough to run it. The democrats have too many fires to fight. Thus they end up with no clear strategy that attracts middle America. I think the democrats have lost the rust belt for a generation. Trump is remaking the Republican Party. I get the impression the republicans are overwhelmed as much as the democrats. Trump keeps telling everyone this is a movement.
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Just the FACTS, ma’am…
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Compare the above with the headlines and if you can see the OBVIOUS, tremendous difference, realize the propaganda you are bombarded with if you haven’t already. Then, STOP BELIEVING HEADLINES designed for the 59% of Americans who ONLY read the headlines. Example:
Grossly misleading and not the most misleading I’ve seen: Judge Blocks Trump Order on Refugees Amid Chaos and Outcry (NYT)
Correct: Judges temporarily block part of Trump’s immigration order (CNN)
to which I will add “for the relatively few people with existing visas who left the country before the ban who are now returning.”
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+100
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Compare the above with the headlines and if you can see the OBVIOUS, tremendous difference, realize the propaganda you are bombarded with if you haven’t already. Then, STOP BELIEVING HEADLINES designed for the 59% of Americans who ONLY read the headlines. Example:
Grossly misleading and not even the most misleading I’ve seen: Judge Blocks Trump Order on Refugees Amid Chaos and Outcry (NYT)
Correct: Judges temporarily block part of Trump’s immigration order (CNN)
to which I will add “for the relatively few people with existing visas who left the country before the ban who are now returning.”
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Foreigners have no Constitutional rights.
The US is free to ban immigration from any country, for any reason.
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Don’t feed the trolls…..
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It is entertaining. I said with the way he handled Mexico he looked like a fool. (and got bitched at by people here) Now this for his encore.
This guy has to stop the must respond to everything immediately shit. Even I learned the consequences of that by the time I was 22. He needs to start thinking out his steps. What are his ultimate goals, what he is willing to compromise to achieve them, and how to properly implement them, or this will never go four years.
Shutting people down mid-flight and setting up a public scenario where people are being detained in airports, was asking – no begging, for a press nightmare. Saying this would be implemented fully in four days would have lead to bickering and a few protests which would have been worlds better than thousands at airports.
What the hell are they thinking?
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This may be part of “the plan”
Another poster here also mentioned that and Mish picked up on it.
Exactly what that plan is and who is involved remains to be seen. But it is always a good idea… in love, war and politics…. to look beyond the obvious.
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Next week will be another slew of perceived outrages. People quickly forget. The left cannot keep up. Same strategy that got him elected.
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So if they did what you suggest – 4 day ‘head start’ – what happens?
That’s four extra days of Dems impotent freak out (dividing the country) AND four days for the bad guys to figure out a way to slip one past the goalie as the Iranian et al airports get besieged upon. It would be like the fall of Saigon.
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For an education, watch the video above.
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Too long, but from what I did watch he is kinda making my point for me. Limited to 200 people in this fly thru state is what I believe caused 90%+ of the hysteria. My problem is not his policy. I wish 5-6 more countries were added to the list. My issue is his implementation just seems poorly thought out and erratic.
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“Shutting people down mid-flight and setting up a public scenario where people are being detained in airports, was asking – no begging, for a press nightmare.”
The press is a nightmare, which is why i don’t listen to anything they have to say, anymore. I read that ABC “news” cut out a comment by an Iraqi detainee, who apparently said he liked Trump. ABC did not want their viewers to know that.
Remember, the mainstream media colluded against Trump. They still are.
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@wrldtrst — you seem not to grasp that the media wants to turn everything into a press nightmare. They rigged the election in the crooks favor, they ordered all the stupid people to obey the idiot box… and for some reason Americans got sick and tired of the lib-tards calling them deplorable.
The media is going to make a scene over everything. So what.
My street is 100% registered democrats (I don’t know how they voted, but that is how everyone is registered). Everyone on my street thinks Trump is on the right track. Guess how many registered democrat voters who support Trump are getting TV time?
As for McCain… the man is a coward. I don’t care if a younger man supposedly stood up in the Hanoi Hilton or not. The guy in Congress is a coward. He doesn’t pay for Obamacare. He doesn’t have to pay extra for illegal immigrants in AZ hospitals. He doesn’t have to tolerate bad VA hospitals. And he doesn’t pay for the massive security detail that protects him, while leaving the rest of America poorly protected.
How many secret service agents are protecting your family?
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And a tiny triumph of capitalism: All those pink give or take pussycat ear hats got made in a hurry.
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Reminds me of “pussy riot” who protested against Putin in Russia’s rebuilt Church of Christ the Saviour. But what most Westerners missed is that Russian Orthodoxy has an historic tradition of outlandish “holy fools”… and “pussy riot” avoided doing anything that directly blasphemed the church. The female “band” stood up with their heads covered [required in the church]… they didn’t play music instruments or go beyond the icon screen [forbidden in the church.] In short, it was a psy-op.
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it is all theater.
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Uncanny… posters here have referred to Trump as a “fool”… and you use the word, “theater”, which has a double-meaning, place for a staged dramatic performance… or place for war.
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There is a color revolution underway in the US right now, spearheaded by the Neocons and Deep State.
It’s important for President Trump to hit back at these people as fast and hard as he can.
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Just the facts?!?
“Donald Trump has received much flak from Democrats and Republicans alike for his proposal to ban Muslims from entering the U.S through executive authority. However, the past six presidents have all used the executive power to bar different classes of immigrants.
Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 states: “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/16/the-past-six-presidents-have-all-used-executive-power-to-block-certain-classes-of-immigrants/#ixzz4XBfl7m7G
Sooooooo….on what legal basis did these federal black-robed demigods overturn Trump’s order? Mish? Critics of Trump? Feel free to chime in…
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All the democrats on my street support Trump’s ban, as does the single “independent” (actually unaffiliated) person.
The media is making news about their own opinions, not reporting anything
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well said
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Trump is a rookie. I think it was planned myself and poorly implemented. Having said that no citizen that is in the USA has the same rights as a US citizen contrary to popular belief with the protesters or the ACLU.
A country that cannot control its borders fails to be a country.
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Ack I meant no citizen from another country here illegally has the same rights as a USA citizen.
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This is the reason I and millions of others voted for Trump and elected him President. We want law and order exercised in these United States of America. No more freeloaders. No more foreign criminals running our streets. No more foreign gangbangers terrorizing our neighborhoods. No more terrorists murdering dozens of American citizens.
This is exactly what we asked for. And it’s exactly what we’re getting. Enough INEQUALITY UNDER THE LAW!!! Finally, a President who behaves like an American and who acts on behalf of his fellow Americans and who has the balls to violate political correctness.
It’s going to be a GREAT 4 years!!!
Go Trump Go!!!!
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We say “strike a nerve.” Now the seven-nation list of sponsors of terrorism was Obama’s list, not Trump’s, to begin with. But lo, shutting off immigration from thence suddenly stimulated whom? John McCain and Lindsey Graham yelped out loud. Of course the left howled too, everyone expected that, but how were McCain and Graham so immediately concerned? I suspect this action is going to expose some really dirty skullduggery, in which the promise of immigration with one’s family to the U.S. was used in these listed countries as a recruiting tool to suborn individuals to nefarious organizations and deeds. I think a lot more information will be forthcoming, and opinions will vary.
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@LFOldTimer +1000
Every democrat on my street (and the one unaffiliated voter) supports Trump even if the media doesn’t
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A green card holder can be barred from entry into the U. S. or even removed from the U. S. if they become “inadmissible”. It’s a privilege, not a right, for non-citizens to live in the U. S.
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/us-deny-entry-inadmissibility-reasons-29715.html
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You want the moon shoot for the stars. Or just shoot the jihadi’s.
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What a disaster – almost guaranteed more AMATEUR HOURS to come.
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Trump is playing a very dangerous game. The Law of Unintended Consequences is getting ready to cause all sorts of situations that will drive Trump nuts. I could very easily see Iran telling Boeing to scotch their contract for new passenger jets and give it to Airbus.
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Yep, could happen. Then all Trump has to do is refuse any US buyers from any companies doing business with the Iranians….hence no more US orders for Airbus…..
Hmmmm…..
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So tell me, how many US-sourced goods are used in an A320? Can you say trade war on steroids?
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It’s not the A-320 parts. It’s the embargo. YEP! It would be ugly. But before OBAMA! released the Iranians from their embargo….NOBODY in the world sold them ANYTHING (practically), as we the US and others enforced that embargo. We could easily go there again – and might??? depending on several things……like, for instance, the Iranians attack or shoot at one of our ships in the Gulf…..Heaven forbid!
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I am horrified readying here so many posts endorsing Trump’s immigration dictate and I feel sorry for Mish who is such an intelligent and internationally conscious man.
Personally I am mostly pro Trump because I am extremely anti-war, but I also believe in respecting all human beings.
Why did Trump omit Saudi Arabia on his list, a likely significant country behind 9/11?
Concerning the trade dispute with Mexico, I believe that the US is the bad guy, purely from a trade/business standpoint. Do not knock the winner. In truth all Americans love and owe to Mexico, from guacamole & tequila to the wonderful Catholic culture. Americans are so lucky to have the nannies and the farm workers i.e. cheap labor. Instead of putting tariffs, an intelligent move from the White House could be to render U.S. exports to Mexico income-tax-free for American exporters. Let’s use the American business ingenuity to even the score. That will be a progressive non-belligerent smart move. I predict that the wall will never be built because both sides would lose.
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At least offer to go splitsies. Otherwise he makes America look like my shitty next door neighbor that came over the day after the hurricane, as I was pulling trees out of my pool, to ask me when ‘I’ was going to have someone come fix ‘my’ fence.
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Trump was intentionally clumsy, playing to his base who love how it upsets the “library’s” and is not politically correct. What a showman.
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I meant say “library’s” not “library’s”, darn spell checker.
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Might want to read the entire executive order itself. Especially the part about it not detaining those in transit. Seems Homeland Security overstepped it’s authority there, not Trump.
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Also, this is not a ban on Muslims, per se. It is a ban on entrants from nations known for supporting terrorist organizations. Most just happen the be predominantly Muslim, although “Muslim” seems to be synonymous with “Terrorist” in some narrow minds.
If all 1.4 plus billion Muslims were really terrorists, the western world would not be hear now.
Again, read the full executive order and see how far afield the media portrayed it.
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“Here” Not “Hear” Been a long day sorting the wheat from the chaff.
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Excellent Post Mish! I particularly liked the succinct summary titled “Mish Positions”.
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Mish: “If it’s unconstitutional, it’s not a small price by definition.”
What part is unconstitutional? Is it the Executive Order itself? Is it a due process issue?
I’ve been married 25 years to a legal resident alien green card holder. Although encouraged, she refuses to become a US citizen. Over the years we’ve often discussed and have had an understanding that as a non-citizen she is not entitled to the same protections I am as a US Citizen…like due process.
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As numerous other commenters and you have pointed out, Trump’s order is 100% Constitutional. Other Presidents have done far worse, and the country built monuments, put their faces on currency, named major highways and bridges after them.
This is nothing but another temper tantrum by liberals who still won’t accept they lost the election.
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REMEMBER THE TIME BILL CLINTON GOT A STANDING OVATION FOR “CRACKING DOWN ON ILLEGAL ALIENS”
by Tyler Durden
Jan 29, 2017 10:10 PM
Before Trump, there was President Obama’s Iraqi refugee ban and seven nations of terror proclamation.
But before Obama there was Bill Clinton who received a standing ovation for demanding stronger border defenses, and deporting criminal illegal immigrants.
“We are a nation of immigrants.. but we are a nation of laws”
“Our nation is rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country…
Illegal immigrants take jobs from citizens or legal immigrants, they impose burdens on our taxpayers…
That is why we are doubling the number of border guards, deporting more illegal immigrants than ever before, cracking down on illegal hiring, barring benefits to illegal aliens, and we will do more to speed the deportation of illegal immigrants arrest for crimes…
It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws that has occurred in the last few years.. and we must do more to stop it.”
It’s starting to get a little awkward for the identity politics of the left to defend their own history while denigrating Trump’s actions.
(VIDEO OF HERPES BILL’S SPEECH AT THIS LINK)…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-29/remember-time-bill-clinton-got-standing-ovation-cracking-down-abuse-our-immigration-
NOTE: “Zero Hedge” was listed by the politically-correct, CIA-owned, Lamestream Media whores as “fake news”.
But, as has been said…
“It is better to be despised by the despicable than admired by the admirable.”
– Kurt Hofmann
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