In one of the more bizarre conspiracy theories that I have ever heard of, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow accuses Trump (or someone acting for Trump) of planting fake evidence showing Trump’s collusion with Russia to steal the US election from Hillary.
The video is 21 minutes. I played it in entirety.
A section on color printing fingerprints is very interesting.
Partial Transcript
Here is a transcript I made of Maddow’s attempt to disguise her own bias against Trump, starting at the 19:00 minute mark.
“Somebody, for some reason, appears to be shopping a fairly convincing fake NSA document that purports to directly implicate somebody from the Trump campaign in working with the Russians on their attack on the election. It is a forgery… I don’t know if the Trump campaign worked with Russia or not. If they did knowingly work with a foreign government, a foreign military intelligence service, to attack our election, to help Trump to the presidency, that is clearly the biggest political scandal in modern American history, by a mile. We don’t know if it happened or not. Not yet. The Special Council is investigating. Congressional committes are more or less investigating, and the American news media is investigating. Whether or not the Trump campaign did it, one way to stab in the heart agressive American reporting on that subject is to lay traps for American journalists reporting on it. Trick news agancies into reporting what appears to be evidence of what happened, then after the fact blow that reporting up. You then hurt the credibility of that news organization, you also cast a shadow over any similar reporting in the future. Whether or not it’s true. Even if it is true, you plant a permanent question, a perminent asterick, a permanent who knows. So heads up everybody, part of the defense against this Trump Russia story, we can report includes somebody forging at least one one classified NSA report and shopping it to news organizations as if it is real.“
“Heads Up!”
Supposedly, Trump, or someone acting on Trump’s behalf sent news organizations fake top-secret documents that show Trump administration ties to Russia.
In case you did not already know, Glen Greenwald at The Intercept has ties to Putin. I have proof.
Under Maddow’s convoluted theory, Trump himself may have sent fake anti-Trump news to MSNBC to discredit Rachel Maddow or MSNBC.
Meanwhile, we do know CNN reporters purposely faked news and were fired for doing so. CNN and the Washington Post each discredited itself by publishing fake news, not by publishing fake documents.
No Mention of Democratic Mud-Slinging
Apparently, there is no chance that Democrats or someone acting to discredit Trump are throwing mud hoping to start multiple simultaneous investigations that just might uncover something.
Maddow attempts to appear to be open-minded by tossing out caveats like “we don’t know if Trump is involved.”
Let me be equally open minded. We don’t know if Maddow or someone at MSNBC sent fake documents to MSNBC to get this alleged scoop.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Or Rachel Maddow could be a plant by the Trump administration to appear so addled and incapable that she tars everyone who might be legitimately planting evidence implicating Trump in a fake conspiracy dreamed up by Rachel Maddow.
“Your mind is the scene of the crime.” — Inception
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DIABOLICAL. Rachel Maddow has been hyperventilating on every little scrap of anonymously sourced evidence about how Putin personally had the entire Russia secret service digging up dirt on Hillary (they somehow knew in advance it would be there) and convincing select Americans to change their vote (according to Hillary they needed to hire in some good old American know-how to get this done), all to get his bitch Trump into the US presidency, so that the could control the world. Now it turns out that traitor Trump fooled the media about this whole thing by personally feeding them unvetted documents so he could discredit the veracity of their reporting !!!
This is crazier than the average excuse three year old children think of when they get caught red-handed.
In the meantime, this has been repeatedly cited as an act of war by Russia, a country almost as nuclear armed to the gills as the US, whose leadership has repeatedly stated that their conclusion based on American actions and words is that the USA is planning a preemptive nuclear strike on their strategic nuclear deterence arsenal.
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Maddow has OCD. this is a continuation of the distraction of crimes committed by the DNC, supported by the MSM.
The more attention that is given to these diversionary tactics, the less progress will be made on sensible/fair trade with the EU and China, the less progress will be made resolving the rise of ISIS in the Levant and the less progress will be made on repratiating the tax evaded by US companies in overseas accounts.
Remember, the Democrats have no credible policies – Maddow is a raving libtard that wants things done her way or no way and should be treated as the spoilt child she is.
Onwards!
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The biggest irony about The Russians! nonsense is that the Hillary campaign began pushing it during the DNC convention as an attempt to discredit Bernie, not Trump.
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Gotta make use of the expensive campaign propaganda. Same reason movie producers make several sequels, “OMG, we have all these props we can’t pay for… time for a sequel”.
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I’m just about to eat lunch, can’t listen to Madcow it would ruin my appetite.
Thanks for doing that horrible task for me, Mish.
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You are welcome
The scary part is she likely did a good job convincing anyone on the edge.
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Nobody “on the edge” watches Maddow. Only true-believers even know she exists.
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Peter, The corporate income tax on foreign earnings is not due until the earnings are repatriated to the U.S. Keeping the money out of the country is perfectly legal. No evasion there. This is to encourage US companies to outsource as much as possible. It is no accident. The raving NWO/Libtard crowd WANTS the destruction of the US as an economic power and does everything in its power to send capital out of the country. It is all part of the plan.
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“All Part of the plan” by the US to destroy the US
What a joke.
Trump wants to outsource.
And by the way, I have mentioned on numerous occasions we have tax policy that encourages holding capital overseas. I would end it.
For that you call me a “libtard”
WTF are you drinking?
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just because an action or inaction does not directly contravene a law, does not make it legal.
the law is an ass.
an equivalence to (your defintion of legal tax avoidance compared to my definition of tax evasion) is to supply bullets to someone from out of town who then enters your steet in your town and kills your neighbors.
no laws were broken when supplying the bullets and no law was broken as you watch your neighbors being slaughtered – common sense tells you that supplying bullets is a crime and standing by while your neighbors dies is also a crime.
there is no right answer to this in law, tax law or common law – there is common sense AND ethics/morals/being a good corporate citizen (jurisprudence?)
anyway, whilst i accept the non-illegality of tax avoidance, i do not accept it is ethical, moral or in the best interests of the country. the attirude is akin to canniablism.
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If the money was earned from foreign operations, then it only seems fair to hold the money for reinvestment overseas. What’s the big deal? If as an individual (USA citizen) you worked in France and were paying taxes in France, then you would not want to pay a second set of taxes in the USA. If USA.gov had a balanced budget (lived within its means, versus epic budget deficits), then none of this would matter. Fiscally irresponsible government, whether Illinois or USA.gov, motivates this quest for more taxes. Only question is who pays for the deficits. Comrade Schumer says this is a major ethical question (e.g. with Obamacare taxes), and from a Marxist perspective it certainly is, and many in the GOP seem to agree. But running up deficits bombing Libya, Iraq, Syria, Iran, et al. back to the Stone Age is strangely beyond ethics and almost mandatory.
The USA could simply do like Ireland and cut its corporate tax rate to attract more foreign capital investment money (job creation). Would we care if it was Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Indian, UK or EU money rather than USA capital earned and kept overseas? Would it really matter? British money built the USA, and no one complained. Perhaps the EU Marxists are right, that Ireland, the UK and even USA lowering corporate tax rates below EU levels is wrong. Am not sure if EU frames this as an ethical or moral issue, versus just plain economics.
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Well,there’s twenty minutes of your life you’ll never get back.
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I found the section on color print signatures fascinating.
I was unaware of that
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They’ve been embedding “secret” codes in every color laser print made for 15+ years. Only recently have people not looked at me like a crazy person when I explain that.
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Yep. I hope the video which I didn’t watch mentioned why – counterfeiting. It’s only legal when the fractional reserve banking system creates money from thin air via the issuance of debt, some of which might later be turned into cash.
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That might make for a quick excuse when they got caught but counterfeiting isn’t the reason. They wouldn’t have gone to such great lengths keeping it secret and then lying about it after it was discovered. The only way this would deter counterfeiters is if they publicized it as a deterrent.
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No, the reason color photocopiers have embedded codes and, BTW, that has NOT been a “secret” for anyone who reads mainstream computer and other tech publications, is to be able to trace a copy back to the machine on which it was made and that is for anti-counterfeiting purposes.
I’m not referring to this specific case. I didn’t watch the video nor will I waste my time doing so. CNN, MSNBC, CNBS, etc., are all worthless to anyone who wants the truth of any story instead of some horribly biased or clueless take on it.
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When does this become certifiable mental illness?
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When everyone knows what you mean when you say RG-syndrome!
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Just wondering if the Rachel Maddow and the Maury Povich shows are produced by the same person.
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Amazing that anyone still watches this effing twit; but I guess the pool of idiots is shrinking.
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It is my understanding that the idiots are moving from watching CNN to watching MSNBC.
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One might imagine that “the syphyllis” has finally rotted its brain, but that would presuppose that some poor, sick soul mustered the gumption to insert his diseased-dick into that sick cow.
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I just bought an industrialized size roll of tin foil.
Anyone have her address?
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The prestige, normally associated with labeling yourself a Rhodes Scholar, is rapidly diminishing.
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Disregard,
I just watched it totally high and everything Mr. Maddow said makes sense.
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Yeah, an tjey allow ltgb perpatraitors like him near lazer printers man, and on tv where old folks are been respectful about the flag an other things too, an they all know Bernie is a fraudster already an msbc they dont care, makes you think bout food.
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so, what ever happened to verificiation of what you receive?
if someone tells me my flight was delayed, I always check the board to make sure its true, then double check on line to make sure the board and on line agree.
so what Maddow is saying is if she receives something she runs with if it supports her views.
She is just juvenile and lazy.
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She did attempt to verify that, and concluded it was a fake. But in addition to accusing Trump, she blew the timeline of the story, totally blowing her report out of the water.
I just found that out.
Will do a followup
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She’s nuts. A complete doosh bag. Guilty by her own fake lies. Not worth discussing or even giving her thoughts TV, internet,!or Air time. Whiney dirty dildo loving twat.
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Has anyone argued that voting machines were rigged by the Russians to register votes for Trump? I haven’t heard of any. Not one.
The MI recount showed a LOT of irregularities. More votes for Hillary than were cast in total. That recount was quickly dropped. And Obama is on tape saying it was OK for illegals to vote. No network analysis of either of those …
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More fake news!!!! Its wasn’t Trumps people who did it.
We all know who it was: Kekistani meme warriors
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Rachael Madcow keeps red-baiting. How cute.
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Did you know her full name is Rachel A. J. Maddow (Rachel Alex Jones Maddow). I’ve got a document to prove it which I got from an anonymous source.
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With little yellow dots to authenticate it!
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The pool of useful idiots that watch lamestream media is drying up. More people are getting their news from microsites like Mish (and I read the comments for more useful information). Therefore, Maddow and crowd have to take a more radical stance, and rely on fake news, to try to boost their sagging ratings. Eventually their ratings will fully pop and deflate, while the rest of the world takes their attention elsewhere.
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I don’t understand this whole Russia nonsense. I expect Russia to want to influence our elections as I would expect every country on the planet to want to. And what was this influence supposed to be? Releasing some emails of what Democrats actually say and do? Even if they did that, which I don’t believe there is any evidence of, they were doing the country a service. We should be thanking them.
Who is this Russia thing supposed to pi$$-off? I have literally never talked to anyone who cared in the least. It makes no sense. Don’t these people just see how much credibility they’re losing?
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Exactly – Hillary lost fairly and squarely (at least in my mind) based on her track record as Sec of State. Who would consider Clinton leaving office with at least four new terrorist states created and existing terrorist states strengthened as an example of good leadership and judgement. I was shocked she was the top candidate at all.
Russia could not have made her reputation any worse than it was to start.
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All this crap about Russia hacking the elections and Trump’s “collusion” with Russia all came well after the elections.
This is evident because if the above allegations were true, Hillary and the Democrats, The Deep State and the Media (I call them the Triad) would have crushed Trump with the “truth” bomb when he devastated all his Republican colleagues in the primaries.
The Triad’s days are done and particularly the Democrats as a party. What we are witnessing here is their last string of hope to make something stick – fake news, conspiracy theories or anything else (take your pick).
Rachel Maddow is rumored to earn $30,000 per day by MSNBC. In 2016 she made $6,000,000 annually from MSNBC. For that type of money, she would say just about anything to keep her job.
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Inspector Clouseau is not dead. An unnamed source close to French President Macaroon has leaked secret documents including secret counterfeit one to this reporter conclusively proving the Russians have been holding the Inspector at a secret base somewhere in a secret part of the country. I dare Ms Maddow to bumble her way out of that one.
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In todays electronic age anything can be artificially created. Documents, fingerprints, digital imaging are easy today. Mish, there are people who can create evidence of any of us stealing money from investors and then running off with the proceeds just before they take the money and we are kidnapped, and disappeared. It is scary when you think too deeply about it.
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Reichstag fires are usually set by “ends justify the means” types, such as socialists. She who smelt it, dealt it.
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The thin veneer of civility erased completely,a sure sign of the Empire in decline.
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Ratings:
CNN et al: Down.
Mish, fellow bloggers, lots of other sources: Up
End of story. Beginning of new story.
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Reblogged this on World4Justice : NOW! Lobby Forum..
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And, in other important news, one dog barked at another somewhere. While two bugs
splattered on someone’s windshield.
In the case of the latter, those two bugs may have been Rachel Maddow and Donald Trump. It wouldn’t matter one iota either way.
But I guess, as long as the drones can be kept all up in arms about what irrelevant harebrain A says about harebrain B, perhaps they won’t bother doing something about our hand being in their wallet, and our gun pointing at their forehead.
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Trump has Maddow running in circles and making an ass of herself by concocting these neurotic theories. She’s going to follow in Kathy Griffin’s footsteps and ruin her professional career over Trump. By the end of Trump’s first term they’ll have to wrap her in a rubber suit.
She already made a total ass of herself by gloating over capturing Trump’s tax returns – only to show that in 2005 he paid $38M in taxes on $150M in income!!! hah.
Now she’s back at it again!!!
Trump must be bent over backwards in laughter.
No big surprise that MSNBC is the lowest-rated news show on the air.
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This is all a story about the Rise and Fall of Rachel Maddow. Full stop.
Whoever digs a pit may fall into it; whoever breaks through a wall may be bitten by a snake. (Ecclesiastes 10:8 and Proverbs 26:27)
i can already see Hollywood making a film about it. Soon.
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better yet, the documents could have been created by the democrat party in order to make it look like trump created fake documents trip up the media.
or trump could have created the docs to make it look like democrats created the fake docs to make it look like trump created the docs to trip up the media.
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All of that is “theoretically possible”
So are space aliens
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Maddow is way over the top, sad very sad that people listen to this and call it news. The idea of having a press that is free to cover the news is generally linked to the idea they will be fair because such a freedom generally comes with a degree of responsibility. News fed to us under a large degree of bias fails to meet this goal.
While some people find it clever news heavily skewed to disparage Trump and comprised of a relentless barrage of attacks does little to inform, bring us together or create calm between Nations. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-free-press-and-their-responsibility.html
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Thing is Mish, the Trump administration must be the most brazenly dishonest and conniving administration since at least Nixon, if not longer. What do you make of his tweet about creating a cybersecurity alliance with Putin? Truly theater of the absurd, meant to distract and/or confuse.
You argue that the left may have created these documents in order to generate an investigation, BUT THERE IS ALREADY A VERY THOROUGH INVESTIGATION happening. Dems don’t need to spur any extra investigating, they only need to capitalize on what is unearthed (if the middle voter can see past the Republican Party’s very effective hate and fear propaganda network).
Maddow can be exasperating at times, but I don’t believe she is fundamentally dishonest. Can you say that about this administration?
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