In the Russia hacking probe, the DNC Denied FBI Direct Access to their Servers. Why?What is the DNC is hiding? Who the DNC is protecting?
Server access denial makes it a lot easier to point a finger at Russia especially when that is story mainstream media and Democrats wish to perpetuate.
However, new analysis now suggests neither Russia nor a Romanian named Guccifer 2.0 was involved at all. Rather, the alleged DNC hack was an inside job.
A person who bills himself as The Forensicator provides the analysis in Guccifer 2.0 NGP/VAN Metadata Analysis.
The Forensicator uses timestamp analysis and transfer rate analysis and concludes the files were copied locally, then a subset of the files was selected for the leak.
His analysis is beyond my expertise to comment on, but it is readable and well presented. It deserves a close look.
Guccifer 2.0 Story
“Guccifer 2.0” is a person or persona stating they were the hacker(s) that hacked into the Democratic National Committee (DNC) computer network and then leaked its documents to the media, the website WikiLeaks, and a conference event.
The U.S. Intelligence Community concluded that some of the genuine leaks that Guccifer 2.0 has said were part of a series of cyberattacks on the DNC were committed by two Russian intelligence groups.
This conclusion is based on analyses conducted by various private sector cybersecurity individuals and firms, including CrowdStrike, Fidelis Cybersecurity, Fireeye’s Mandiant, SecureWorks, ThreatConnect, Trend Micro, and the security editor for Ars Technica.
The Russian government denies involvement in the theft, and “Guccifer 2.0” denied links to Russia. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said that multiple parties had access to DNC emails and that there was “no proof” that Russia was behind the attack. According to various cybersecurity firms and U.S. government officials, Guccifer 2.0 is a persona that was created by Russian intelligence services to cover for their interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
Theory #1: Russia
Putin hired Guccifer 2.0 to hack the DNC server. Guccifer 2.0 succeeded, then managed to download massive amounts of data in minimal time over relatively slow connections. A subset of those files later appeared on Wikileaks.
Theory #2: Inside Job
Someone at the DNC did not want Hillary to win. That person, having local access, was able to transfer large numbers of files quickly. A subset of those files later appeared on Wikileaks.
Maddow Fake Drama
The Guccifer 2.0 story is very similar to mess Rachel Maddow is in.
For details, please see MSNBC Fake Drama: Timestamp Says Maddow’s Exclusive “Scoop” Story is Full of Holes.
One by one, all of these “Russia is Responsible” theories look weaker and weaker with each passing day.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
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Seth Rich, an acknowledge Bernie supported, was rumored on Zero Hedge to be the leaker several weeks ago. MSM as usual are only now cluing in. Didn’t fit the Russia-Trump collusion narrative, but it derailed the RINO agenda by several months.
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The DNC is ignoring the murder of their own employee Seth Rich. Assange at wikileaks has posted a substantial reward to find the killers, so it seems like the money trail shows who really wants to find the truth.
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Checkout Matt Couch. He’s in Washington DC right now, investigating the murder from a fresh perspective. So far he has found that the attending physician was not who was reported to be, and many other facts in the case have been disproved, plus there’s a lot of new evidence. the is an interview on periscope and youtube from this weekend that discloses this new stuff.
With SETH RICH INVESTIGATOR & Citizen Journalist @RealMattCouch LIVE in Washington DC
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“he has found that the attending physician was not who was reported to be”
I knew that from the get-go considering that the police report on the incident gave a time of death only a few hours after the shooting while the BS from the “attending physician” indicated a MUCH longer survival time. Goes to show that if someone makes up some credible-sounding story using proper jargon, all kinds of suckers buy it without question as does the mainstream media but only IF it fits their left wing narrative.
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There’s a humor twitter account called “Sean Spicier”, named after Trump Admin Spokesperson Sean Spicer.
Here’s a recent quip that says it all
“To be honest, we knew all along the Russian lawyer didn’t have dirt on Hillary. The fact that he was still breathing was a dead give away.”
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More than ignoring. The Rich family “spokesperson” is a professional “crisis communicator” closely connected to the DNC. One could easily speculate as to whether the Rich family is being impeded from speaking out without the “spokesperson”
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Yes, sounds like Seth Rich was murdered for more than one reason….
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Seth Rich was working with
Kim Dot Com
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How does “Theory #2” involve Russia? An inside job would exclude Russia.
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Russia is a distraction
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The most telling evidence is there’s no investigation into finding the DNC insider who released the emails. Even if it wasn’t an inside job, you would think they would look into it somewhat. Why would you put all your eggs into the Putin narrative? The only logical conclusion is they don’t want to look for the insider because the Putin-Trump narrative may collapse as a result.
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The Russian narrative was spawned from the Paul Manafort revelation on June 14, 2016 and recycled several times into what it evolved into today. The amount of garbage that CNN/MSLGBT has spun out of this is the astounding part.
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The main reason for not having the FBI investigate the “Hacking” of the DNC servers is that examination of the contents might well result in a great many indictments of many top level Democrats. Blaming Russia was always a smoke screen. So an insider, such as Seth Rich takes a data dump, sends it to Wikileaks and is murdered for his efforts. What to do? Claim that the Russians hacked the servers and then distorted the data. Everyone will believe it, right?
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Seth Rich was a Russian dupe murdered by a professional Russian agent now summering in Russian occupied Crimea. Game , set and match to Putin. “If you like your Crimea, you can keep your Crimea”!
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Maybe he was and maybe he wasn’t. Is there any proof? By the way, the Crimea was always Russian. Read your history.
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The Ottoman Empire would dispute that claim, I think. 😉
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Of course they would but there were prior claims to the Ottomans, were their not? That whole Black Sea area has been a history of conquest and genocide. Certainly the Mongols and Tartars have had their hands in that history.
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http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2014/03/the-vikings-the-rus-kiev-the-entangled-history-of-russia-and-ukraine/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs
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https://evolutionistx.wordpress.com/2016/02/19/turkey-not-very-turkic-a-genetic-history-of-the-turkic-peoples/
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“Theory #2: Russia” should read “Theory #2: Inside Job” (or similar)
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I have a guess why the DNC didn’t allow the FBI to examine the server after Crowdstrike did their report. There are several DNC operatives who were former State Department employees, and who kept their “top secret” classification. The Obama administration was disseminating classified reports “as widely as possible,” so these eployees may have received and stashed the reports.
My guess is there were top secret documents placed on the server by these ex-State Department employees, and the DNC didn’t want to risk the FBI discovering them as part of an analysis.
By the way, the analysis seems plausible from what I know of file systems on Linux and Windows. I am, however, not a security expert, only a programmer the last 45 years.
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What are the odds that a private investigator or security expert hired to find something, would come up with just what the employer wanted them to find (and/or not find)? Ans: 100%.
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You may not be smart enough to figure this out, but “Hackinator” gave you all the basic data to confirm or shoot down his results (location of the files he analyzed and the MD5 checksum to confirm it’s the same archive.) This is the mark of a true scientist: independent verification is the touchstone of the advancement of knowledge. You’re so brilliant, prove him wrong. But that requires actual knowledge and work….
Do you ever ask yourself if the world is actually a better place for your being in it?
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Sorry, “Forensicator.” I may get a trademark on “Hackinator.” 🙂
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This reminded me of today’s Dilbert: http://dilbert.com/
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“I have a guess why the DNC didn’t allow the FBI to examine the server after Crowdstrike did their report.”
So do I – Crowdstrike gave them the analysis they wanted and they didn’t want that conclusion possibly contradicted via the analysis by anyone else, something which could possibly lead to proof of an inside job with a further possible trail leading to the murdered Seth Rich. Now, that would be incredibly damning, wouldn’t it? Even their lapdog MSM couldn’t ignore that.
Also, illegal activity and classified or illegally obtained private information on adversaries (Trump & Sanders) might also be found during the investigative process.
The DNC had nothing to gain and everything to lose with such an investigation.
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Hey! Sherlock
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Did we ever see any real evidence on russia at all being involved?
I heard opinions without substantiation…..
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Tons of evidence! From “anonymous sources”, i.e., the imaginations of leftwing reporters.
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Well, actually, we were told by anonymous sources that there was tons of data.
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Now you traffic conspiracy theories?
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Seems like he is refuting a dumb conspiracy theory, and substituting an honest investigation.
There is no Russia connection. After a year of absurd allegations, not one has panned out — not even a glimmer of circumstantial evidence. The media’s ridiculous obsession with election rigging is just speeding up the number of homes dropping cable TV (not that the cord cutting trend needed much help) — AT&T/Time Warner should tell CNN to grow up, cord cutting is bad for their business.
And there are important things that need doing in Washington, like repealing (no replace!) the Obamacare insurance scam and reducing debt growth by controlling spending across the board.
No one will forgive the democrats if their conspiracy rubbish prevents people from getting jobs and medical CARE (not unusable insurance).
Obamacare must go. Now. Spending must be controlled. Now. Poor governments do not have the luxury of helping the poor, so you had better drop the act and get with the program
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Did you miss the news today? Over and over again, previously undisclosed contact with Russians and Trump associates come to light. Why are they hiding all this shit until someone else discovers it?
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I saw yet another conspiracy theory, this time Jared Kushner supposedly had a meeting with a guy who’s dog pees on the same fire hydrant as another dog that visited St Petersburg in a past life.
This show jumped the shark last season. Its just stupid now.
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OMG Kushner has been exposed talking to a Russian last year! That clinches it, get a rope.
Meanwhile just ignore Crooked Hillary selling a big part of US uranium to the Russians. It is an undeniable fact so the left has to ignore it and come up with ridiculous distractions.
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Trump has met with many foreigners. Did they ALL hack the DNC?
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Putin and friends were investors in a company run by Podesta and which he was a board of directors member. Connected to Russia? Yes, bought and paid for, in DNC style.
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“Did you miss the news today?”
No, but i did see the propaganda. Law expert Jonathan Turley has already dismissed the propaganda for what it is.
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It’s just Shamrock’s cognitive dissonance, Medex. Logic and facts have no effect on that.
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Some jackass who calls himself the forensicator is a more reliable source than US intelligence agencies? Twilight zone.
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Evidence we can see and independently verify is more compelling than a man who committed perjury in sworn Congressional testimony (Clapper).
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Those Intelligence agencies are really just 3 agencies: the CIA, NSA and FBI. And all 3 include in their reports that they have no conclusive evidence.
Heck, they STILL havent examined the crime scene! (that would be the DNC’s computers)
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Ah, yes, our esteemed intelligence agencies.
The NSA knew about ransomware vulnerabilities in Microsoft Windows software and did nothing to alert Microsoft about them. Specifically, the WannaCry virus is something their negligence contributed to.
James Clapper gave sworn testimony that the NSA does not spy on American citizens, which proved to be false. Lastly, James Comey leaked to The New York Times a private conversation he had with the US president. When does this become criminal and not just incompetence? We already know they’re incompetent as this investigation shows.
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Well there was/is some kind of conspiracy going on, and all that is available about it is still theory.
You have to do better than just label it as theory to take it down.
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We have been waiting for more than a year for actual evidence: nothing. Just “anonymous” accusations published in discredited newspapers, plus the unsupported opinion of a man guilty of perjury.
Show us actual evidence that we can verify independently, or else shove your “slam dunk WMD”s where the sun don’t shine.
We have actual work to do
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Sad part is people have to spend their time defending themselves from other people’s accusations. It is madness, but we know the accusations will not end because some will never stand the resulting loss of face, they actually need a story like this not to excuse loss of election but to vindicate winning in future. As long as they control the narrative Trump remains guilty till proven innocent. I just don’t understand why people aren’t being tried over this, it gives the impression that they are the authority, that Trump is hiding. I am sure consistently making false accusation against a president carries some severe penalties. As with WMD, people don’t react at the moment and a country gets destroyed in a war we are still fighting to this day. They don’t care if you have work to do. When Iraq started I switched off and concentrated on what I had to do… but then Libya, Syria, refugees, regional politics hinging on all of this as a distraction, a reality. People aren’t going far if they spend their time fighting shadows instead of being grounded in their day to day, I have the feeling though that attention will be taken one way or another. What to do.
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The technical analysis is credible. I doubt any of the private sector cybersecurity individuals and firms (CrowdStrike, Fidelis Cybersecurity, Fireeye’s Mandiant, SecureWorks, ThreatConnect, Trend Micro, and the security editor for Ars Technica) would dispute the analysis. No doubt that DNC server might have been subjected to other attacks, including possibly Russian, but the leak documents now appear to be an inside job. In fact, DNC can probably identify the person who did it given this latest time data.
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Podesta fingered him some time ago, his name is Seth Rich.
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Credibility Of Cyber Firm That Claimed Russia Hacked The DNC Comes Under Serious Question
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-23/credibility-cyber-firm-claimed-russia-hacked-dnc-comes-under-serious-question
Conclusion:
“If the company’s analysis was “delusional” when it came to Ukraine, why should we have any confidence that its analysis on Russia and the DNC is more sound?
“Answer: We shouldn’t.
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The Evidence That Russia Hacked The DNC Is Collapsing
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-25/evidence-russia-hacked-dnc-collapsing
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The liberals remind me of Inspector Clouseau in the old Pink Panther films. Every theory they’ve concocted to incriminate Trump has been shot down in flames. So now in desperation they’re going after Trump’s kid – which will fail too. ha. What a bunch of incompetent bozos. No wonder they lost both Houses and the WH. lol.
Putin laughs at them too. I haven’t seen a single shred of evidence that points to the Russia government even attempting to rig the presidential election. Were Russian agents bribing Hillary supporters to change their votes over to Trump? Where the hell is the evidence? I must have missed it. I haven’t spoken to one Hillary supporter who claimed to have been extorted by the Russians leading up to election day.
Congress knows that if they don’t start another big war that we’re going to get flushed economically. So now they’re provoking Putin into a corner like a rattlesnake and goading him to strike first so that we can blame him for whatever follows. The problem is that Putin is about 4 moves ahead of them. And they hate him for it.
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I’m sorry I’ve forgotten already by now what was the big revelation coming from wikileak that was supposed to change my vote. Something about dissing other politicians behind their backs or smoke filled room manipulation of the democratic party operations. Isn’t this standard procedure in politics as well as corporate leadership.
Most go with results – buy from the company with the best product or support the politician with the best track record. In this case we have an exceptionally poor track record with Hillary.
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I have another theory. This whole Russia thing is a plot of the deep state. They are using it to paralyze government with endless investigations to keep from enacting any of the Trump agenda.
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Very plausible.
I’d like to see one tenth the effort expended on Trump turned to investigating Hillary’s server instead. The FBI didn’t insist on examining the server. It gave immunity to several DNC staffers in exchange for nothing, it allowed people to be prepped by lawyers prior to interviews, indeed to have the lawyers present during questioning. All in all, VERY perfunctory.
Still, if you want to have a severe “What the heck??!!??” moment, google and read the stories about the Awan brothers. Just amazing …
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That is explained here… It’s not Russia, It’s the Ukraine with George Soros:
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Or possibly to pressure WikiLeaks into at last revealing outright who their source was, thereby destroying something that their entire credibility is built upon.
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But if it is in fact Seth Rich, he is dead and cannot suffer any harm due to the revelation.
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The only problem I see right now is with the timeline of “Guccifer 2.0″‘s release of the stuff he claimed to have hacked from the DNC vs. the timestamps of the RAR files of the email release from Assange.
The first public report of the hack appears to have been in the Washington Post on June 14. This seems to be the only event that does not fit the initial date of July 5. But if you read the Hill article on the Guccifer releases, they are not emails but rather documents, spreadsheets and databases. This would seem to indicate the emails came from somewhere else.
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Ding, ding, ding!
“Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), including William Binney, a former technical director of the NSA, asserts that the DNC email release was caused by a leak not a “hack.”
The distinction is important: a hack is done over the Internet; a leak is done transferring files onto a memory stick with little or no record. VIPS believes the emails were taken by an insider who transferred the files onto a thumb drive. If the files had been transferred over the Internet, the NSA would have a record of that since virtually every packet is stored.”
NSA stores and records all information. All along the line, when emails are sent, they can track where they’re going. Edward Snowden pointed this out. If the NSA did have a record of the emails being hacked, they would have provided the evidence already! Since they haven’t, that means the emails were not hacked, but were transferred to a thumb drive. This is an inside job.
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/09/ten-problems-with-anti-russian-obsession/
William Binney was one of the men who set up the surveillance and tracking procedures at the NSA. He’s now retired.
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Switches the attention on to if there was “Russian espionage” instead of remote access, changes the picture but doesn’t seal it. You are going to have to get an employee admitting the reasoning, and then checking with other facts to find if true. We aren’t likely to hear the whole story, whatever it is. Where people are shown to have lied though will be good enough to discredit them and their version of events.
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Honestly fake news needs to be called “Democrats BS of the day” what’s really bugging me though is no indictments from AG Sessions for Obama, Hillary, Bill, Loretta Lynch, Susan Rice, Podesta, and the Hospital where Seth Rich was taken for Gun Shot wounds that medical witnesses personnel said were minor scrapes, and not even close to being life threatening. Word on Twitter was after being treated he was moved to a room where no one was allowed to check on him. FBI agents, DC were on guard outside the door. Doctors and other medical personnel attempted to visit and take vital signs all night but were denied entry. Finally in the morning he (Seth Rich) was pronounced dead. The body removed but no coroner was brought in. These Clintons need to indicted and brought to justice.
Packy
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Back from six weeks visiting my family in California, Washington, and New Mexico. Learned the millennials have disconnected from the mainstream media, the snowflakes are still melting. Most never read the leaked emails about the leadership in the DNC and Hillary rigging the elections in her favor colluding with the media to make Hillary our savior. I pointed the email leaks out to some and many read them and wee upset but many still run on emotion.
I asked why the disconnect with the big four news channels and their reply is they do not trust the mainstream media outlet and they are tired of the reporting. Many do not believe any of the Russian hacking stories. I told them why do you believe all the hype about Trump and again it was emotion based.
A good friend of my son, a smart young lady with her masters degree, was still melting because she felt we owed her free healthcare because she liked to smoke pot and could not pass a drug test to land her a good job. I told her she wasted her parents money getting a degree if she did not want to work and pointed out getting covered in tattoos is unacceptable in most professional environments. She got upset and started calling me names. Ending the conversation stating “it must be nice to be an affluent white guy”. I just had to laugh and replied must be nice to have rich affluent white parents that footed your tuition in college. She graduated debt free. She replied it was nice.
There are those who will work and those that think we owed them a living. Nothing is going to change their minds. She even got upset when she read the emails and I pointed out they were true.
All of this nonsense is nothing more then a diversion from the real issues and the truth that many in the DNC leadership and Hillary should be prosecuted for rigging the primaries in her favor.
I was hoping this crap would be over when I returned home. No TV was refreshing, although the wife was about to die because she could not watch the young and the restless LOL. I recorded them and today she will most likely start binge watching them. I am doomed!!!!!!!!!
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Look at the Google Trends on this:
https://trends.google.co.uk/trends/explore?date=2016-01-01%202017-07-11&q=trump%20russia,seth%20rich
Seth Rich murdered 10th of July
Trump Russia propaganda started a week later.
Pretty amazing coincidence.
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You Trumpers are pathetic. We now have confirmed collusion, and y’all are still clinging to conspiracy theories in desperate attempt to deflect away from what you call the “Russian Narrative”. Hey Mish, is it still fake news if Trump Jr. admits to it?
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Confirmed “collusion”.
You are delusional
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“You Trumpers are pathetic. We now have confirmed collusion”
Not according to Jonathan Turley, a law expert.
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The DNC colluded with the Hillary campaign against Sanders and with Hillary and the American MSM against Trump.
The MSM collusion against Trump still continues. Over 90% of political donations by MSM people goes to the Democrat Party. The news reflects that fact.
There is a tremendous media fraud going on. Locally, KTLA runs slanted anti Trump stories, never quoting Law expert Jonathan Turley or Harvard law professor Alan Derschewitz, to balance the reporting. They never interviewed William Binney on hacking. Fortunately, our news is not restricted to MSM propaganda operations. Unlike the days of Walter Cronkite, they can no longer control the narrative.
Yesterday’s “bombshell” Trump MSM news has already been dismissed by law expert Jonathan Turley. No laws were broken.
Beware of MSM fraud.
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From a commenter on Redstate (you know how liberal those guys are…)
“Let me see if I understand the trajectory of this story so far: 1) “We had no meetings with the Russkies”; 2) “Ok we met with some Russkies to talk about rainbows and unicorns and adopting little Russian babies but they asked for the meeting and Paul thinks rainbows are pretty so he dropped by”; 3) “Ok, they promised us some dirt we could use to bury that Clinton monster so we took the meeting but really we were focused on rainbows and adopting Russian babies”; 4) “Ok, we heard from a Russian beauty pageant friend that the Russian government had dirt on the Hilldebeast so we reached out to the lawyer and asked for a meeting. Also babies. Also, the President did not know about the meeting nor did he attend. Also FakeNews”
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Hey Mish
I do you enjoy being the place were all the crazies go to rant?
Who got the data out of the DNC — I don’t know, but I presume that the FBI will eventually figure it out. It is there job, as it is the job of the justice department. As for Marc Rich’s death, who know maybe he was the source. No one will know since no one has examined his computer (as of 1 month ago), no one at the FBI had asked for his computer…
Maybe he’s the one, maybe he was killed for his “knoweldge” but maybe there’s nothing there.
THe one issue that is certainly a problem is the fact that the neither the FBI or the DOJ were very interested in the DNC’s or March Rich’s computer for a long long time.
The behavior of the President of your country make no sense for a guy who has nothing to hide, in fact he behaves in a way that seems to damage his “brand” and legitimacy. Don’t know why he does it, but really its not that important. Again its the job of the FBI and the DOJ to figure this stuff out.
I can say that it was the Russians, or the Martians, but I have no real idea
Nor doesn anyone else
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Trump is a narcissist
From that – everything he says and does makes sense to him
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Have you heard?
It’s a “slam dunk” that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
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Oh, and those “mobile biological weapons factories” described by Colin Powell at the UN that the Iraqis said were hydrogen generators for artillery spotting balloons and which an ABC warfare expert at the time said were most definitely not mobile biological weapons factories were, upon post-invasion inspection… wait for it… hydrogen generators for artillery spotting balloons.
Mobile weapons laboratory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_weapons_laboratory
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It would be in war-mongerers’ best interest to initiate a conflict any way they could.
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