After cleverly changing the Meaning of Always to a matter of hours, President Trump is making fine use of his new definition.
For the third time in three days, he has changed his stance on Obamacare.
Instead of letting Obamacare fail as he proclaimed yesterday, Trump Now Asks Congress to Stay in Session until they get something done.
Here is the sequence of events.
New Definition of Always
Today, President Trump told senators at the beginning of a lunch meeting at the White House “We can repeal, but we should repeal and replace, and we shouldn’t leave town until this is complete — until this bill is on my desk and until we all go over to the Oval Office. I’ll sign it and we can all celebrate to the American people.”
“We are very close again,” Trump said.
Trump directed some joking but pointed remarks to the senators whose opposition sunk McConnell’s plan. To Jerry Moran of Kansas and Mike Lee of Utah, he called them “my friends, they really were and are, they might not be very much longer.”
He also delivered a veiled threat to opponents. Speaking to Dean Heller of Nevada, who opposed the first version of McConnell’s bill, Trump suggested the voters in Nevada would appreciate him voting to replace Obamacare.
“He wants to remain a senator doesn’t he?” Trump asked. “Any senator who votes against starting debate is really telling America you are fine with Obamacare,” he added.
Do You Ever Have to Make Up Your Mind?
I just happen to have a fitting musical tribute.
The new definition of “always” is 9 hours and 41 Minutes.
For anyone who has problems making of their mind, that new definition sure is handy.
By the way, what happened to “I’m Not Gonna Own It‘?
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Agree, Donny needs to take a deep breath and count to ten. Also stop tweeting.
Please let him tweet as much as possible. So far it has given an in depth look about this mover & shaker – what a deep thinker he is. Better than any Hollywood flick
Trump made a good point.
The losers in the GOP congress always complained that they couldn’t pass conservative legislation because Obama would just veto it – which would only waste their time and efforts.
That excuse no longer exists.
The democrats always hang together and support a united cause. The republicans fight among themselves so nothing gets done – despite a majority in both houses and a cooperative republican in the White House.
This isn’t about Trump. It’s about a worthless GOP congress that can’t find it’s own ass with both hands and a flashlight.
Speaking as a life long Republican, I am sorry to say, this guy is a freakin embarrassment to America.
No matter how much you hate Obama, disagree with his policies, or knew he was full of shite, he most certainly did personify how a President should carry himself.
I can only give you the point of view from outside America ( and I know that some of you will immediately dismiss this). There isn’t one person I know, from a dozen different countries, who don’t think he’s moron.
Lol. “A moron”
Don’t know how things will evolve, but I recall many Eurosceptics to the intelligence and even sanity of Ronald Reagan. Danger to draw your conclusions from popular opinion.
Absolutely. Reagan turned out to be a very good president, who accomplished a lot for his country by managing to work together with both parties. What an amazing concept!
The thing I was most impressed with was his humility and sense of humor.
The thing I disliked the most was the trickle down economic theories, as the trickling seemed to stop at the top 10%.
But hey, no one is ever perfect. He did a good job overall.
Somehow, I have trouble seeing any of Reagan in Trump, but anything is possible.
And where “outside of America” are you, realist? Outside of American covers a lot of territory. I’m sure the North Koreans have opinions similar to that.
Yep. You nailed it. I’m North Korean! (I wish I could portray how hard I’m laughing right now!)
It should be obvious. From a socialisticist country that functions well, and he speaks Engllsh. good. He’s Venezuelan.
“No matter how much you hate Obama, disagree with his policies, or knew he was full of shite, he most certainly did personify how a President should carry himself.”
I guess if you judge the greatness of a president’s demeanor by his ability to look you square in the eye and lie through his teeth without cracking a grin – Obama was undoubtedly one of our very best. In that respect he certainly makes Trump look like a piker. There I agree with you 100%.
Chuck soli said:
Same difference , can’t wait until the next
Status quo Is seated and finishes the country
Offor for good , rhino party is the end of all
Hey wrld. You’re cracking me up! Very funny!
That’s what I’m here for. And as an FYi, Americans are much less angry than what you see here. At least the ones I associate with. Then again, most of them are on ecstasy when we hang out.
Lol. Too much!
Jon Sellers said:
Republicans as a group don’t have a coherent ideology. You have big business crony capitalists, neo-con militarists, Christian evangelicals and atheist libertarians. Christian values grate up against militarist and libertarian values. big business wants big government, which is antithetical to libertarians and big business despises traditional conservative Christian values. Libertarians stand in stark contrast to the militarists.
They are only united by their shared lust for power and bribes. It’s surprising they can stand to be in the same room with each other.
And Democrats are even worse.
“big business wants big government”
Some do. Many don’t. Some just want the big contracts with less regulation – basically, having your cake and eating it too.
Stuki Moi said:
Absent regulation, big business, with precious few, if any at all, exceptions, would be eaten alive by smaller business.
“The state – or, to make the matter more concrete, the government – consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can’t get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods.” – H. L. Mencken in a 1936 essay
Sadly, that kind of sums it up. Still, this type of democracy has more potential to do good then any other system. The trick is to make it work as best you can to the benefit of all.
Stuki Moi said:
How many times does grown men have to engage in some silly ritual involving fist pumping and voting booths, with no meaningful change resulting from it; before they start contemplating Einstein’s definition of insanity: “doing something over and over again and expecting a different result.”
Democracy worked some centuries ago because, and only because, it challenged and delegitimized the entrenched ruling order that came before it.
Over time, the ruling class in any system; irrespective of whether theocracy, aristocracy or democracy, find ways to entrench themselves and obtain ever more privilege. In the process making it more and more important for those who want to get ahead, to focus on whatever court intrigue is required for entry into that ever more privileged class, rather than doing productive work.
And this goes on, and gets more and more dysfunctional, until society is so weakened from lack of anyone doing anything productive, that it falls apart. And is replaced, either by internal opposition, or by outsiders.
Of course, the ruling class and beneficiaries in every system, do their darnedest to indoctrinate their captive underlings that their specific system is the bestest system. Bestetster than all the others. The End of History! The Millennial Empire! What have you. Which of course serve those in power, who in every instance are in power specifically because the current system benefits them disproportionately.
And so the cycle repeats. As sooner or later, even the most well indoctrinated of drones, come to recognize that no matter how staunchly the current system’s anointed priests with Book interpretations, and “experts” with “studies,” insists that their system is in fact diiiiferent thiiis tiiime than all the others; does him no good at all. And that he’d in fact be much better off by simply blowing the whole nonsense to smithereens. And try his luck in some other “system,” where the deck is less obviously stacked against him.
“The losers in the GOP congress always complained that they couldn’t pass conservative legislation because Obama would just veto it – which would only waste their time and efforts. That excuse no longer exists.”
Most of them are RINOs because they can’t fund their own too-long-by-design campaigns (too-long to make sure they need massive donations and are, therefore, for sale) and for that reason they are beholden to many of the same owners of the government as the Dems. When are people going to figure that out? We’re in a hopeless bought government situation and the only fix was described by Dylan Ratigan in his famous rant on MSNBC.
HOWEVER, regardless of how much of “an idiot” Trump is, had the Hildabeast been elected or, for that matter, ANY Dem prez candidate, that would have been the final blow for the US political demographics and the Supreme Court. THIS is why the Dems are so INSANE right now. This was their big chance, but they got a huge surprise after thinking they had it in the bag.
No border control and amnesty would have taken the political demographics even further to the left than they already have. 70% of Hispanics vote Dem as do 80% of blacks, 70% of Muslims, and 80% of those from India, all “handout” or just generally “government is the solution to everything” types and that’s the drug the Dem pushers push. But as Maggie Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.
“The main thing that every political campaign in the United States demonstrates is that the politicians of all parties, despite their superficial enmities, are really members of one great brotherhood. Their principal, and indeed their sole, object is to collar public office, with all the privileges and profits that go therewith. They achieve this collaring by buying votes with other people’s money. No professional politician is ever actually in favor of public economy. It is his implacable enemy, and he knows it.” – H. L. Mencken
“Most of them are RINOs ………. they are beholden to many of the same owners of the government as the Dems.” That is true, but that is one of the things I like about Donny. He hardly needs anyone else’s money.
Politicians, left and right, prosper from dysfunction..
To look at the net result of our governance over the last century and in any way consider Trump a moron, is rich indeed. A moron would have been far less destructive than the deliberate destruction wrought by our geniuses.
Trump is trying to succeed in an environment that seeks anything but, and then we have our geniuses here denigrating him because he will say or do anything to advance his agenda.
We have experienced eight years of a deliberate LIAR who unabashedly would say ANYTHING to advance his destruction. The ACA is a disaster that had taken a sick system and given it cancer… deliberately because it’s originators knew it was the only way to get single payer.
Explain HOW keep your doctor, keep your plan, lower your premiums by $2500/yr is in any way comparable to Trump’s flip-flop on this or any other subject.
I’m sick of this shit. We deserve everything we get.
We just can’t help ourselves.
Ron J said:
“The democrats always hang together and support a united cause. The republicans fight among themselves so nothing gets done.”
How fast did they get the Patriot Act passed?
His foreign policy is conducted on the same level. This country desperately needs a 3rd. party not be holding to special interest.
Did someone say “third party”?
Right now, President Trump is in search of a second party.
Jon Sellers said:
The only way they can get rid of Obamacare is if Donald Trump comes up with a replacement that has the popular support of the American people. I think we all know the likelihood of that.
1. Congress steps back and provides the necessary funding to keep Obamacare going.
2. They never bring up the subject again.
Careful, Jon. “Making predictions is really difficult, especially when they’re about the future” ~Yogi Berra
I love Yogi Berra!
I maintain my prediction that the US will eventually move to a single payer system, but only after exhausting every other possibility in the meantime. That should take about 30 years.
I agree 100%. Right now you have a product of a bunch of compromises, with both sides politicizing something too complex for most to understand and making it about party over country. Throw in egregious monopolistic practices from big Pharma and the Medical side, and now not only is it an absolute mess but a very expensive one at that.
More importantly, Yogi was awesome.
Socialism, the final destination of tyrants.
So narrow minded. It prevents you from seeing the real world. I am neither left, nor right, nor up or down. I look at reality and deal with it. You are a hammer, and as a result everything looks like a nail to you. Your contributions are meaningless till someone needs a hammer. It’s all the same drivel, over and over.
Yet YOU still see government as the answer. YOU want from government what it can TAKE from others.
Do YOU have any idea what the real world is? It is the battle of tyranny, those for it and those against it. Those who would deprive me of choice, do so to advance THEIR condition. I ask nothing of anyone, except to be left to my own devices. Your “real world” would have none if it. It would demand that I pay for your healthcare, your food and lodging. Your cell phone and internet and devices. It would demand me to satisfy all of your “needs” as you call them.
I see the world as wonderful, yet complex. However, I want to contribute to make it an even better place.
You see it from a position of paranoia. You don’t want to make it better, you want to retreat into the shadows, clutching your possessions, saying “my precious”. You think that everyone is out to get you. As a result you are full of rage and hatred for your countrymen. I see you in the shadows. I know who you are.
I look at government as a necessary part of society. Without government there is only anarchy and chaos. And sometimes, the government is the correct solution to the problem (though I admit, the US government is pretty inept; just look at how they are handling health care). But I’m realistic enough to know they are the solution to just a few problems. The free market is the correct solution to many problems.
You think that I want you to pay for my stuff. The reality, is that I want to help pay for yours. I do as much charitable work as I have time for. You hide from the world, paranoid, and full of hate. I feel sorry for you.
That is the reality.
Stuki Moi said:
” Without government there is only anarchy and chaos”
Nope. Anarchy and emergent order. Emphasis on: Emergent. As opposed to: Imposed by a privileged class of rulers.
Emergent order. Kind of like Mad Max? Good luck with that.
Stuki Moi said:
Mad Max is a movie. Aimed to entertain. It would be kind of boring, if everyone in it just sat around and peacefully traded with their neighbors.
The most enduring real world experiment with anarchy, is in relations amongst states. All armed, all capable of causing lots of damage to neighbors.
IOW, all capable of creating “chaos.” Yet few actually do, and the system as a whole has proven plenty more stable and enduring, than any attempt at “world government” dreamt up by the hopelessly naive as a “final solution to war and poverty and chaos and injustice and whatever other un-PC state of affairs is hailed as the preeminent hobgoblin du jour.”
You have no idea what I contribute, and I can promise you my tax bill is far in surplus from my benefits.
And all you do is complain about it. Doesn’t sound like someone “willing” to contribute to me.
Your words betray you.
Larry Szabo said:
He is use to being a dictator of his own business. I think he and any normal business person could not fathom how squirrelly that place is! Put the dems on one side and the re-ubs on the other instead of mixing them make it so they just do battle.
From: MishTalk Reply-To: MishTalk Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 18:34:01 +0000 To: Larry Szabo User Subject: [New post] Dear President Trump: Do You Ever Have to Make Up Your Mind?
WordPress.com Mish posted: “After cleverly changing the Meaning of Always to a matter of hours, President Trump is making fine use of his new definition. For the third time in three days, he has changed his stance on Obamacare. Instead of letting Obamacare fail as he proclaime”
After no insurance providers exist the Obamacare tax continues until repeal. Republicans have until January1 or face a hornets nest of taxpayer voters.
Mission Accomplished said:
Well….the facts change I change.
What do you do sir?
I was thinking that also, Mission. It is one of the few instances when I can agree with Keynes.
A politician who points out that our economy is failing will be blamed for it’s ultimate failure, just as financial rating firms were blamed (and charged) for Greece’s economic collapse.
Republicans are being blamed for ACA’s failure because they created doubt and because they refuse to bail it out with more taxpayer money.
Republicans cannot win the public opinion war by instituting financially sustainable policies. Reducing the growth of Medicaid from 400%of poverty to 350% is a draconian cut that results in DEATH.
Republicans know they will receive the same treatment as Trump if the vote for financial sanity. Trump has tried every angle, every approach to cajole these people to even come close to doing the right thing, and the best WE have is to trash him for his constantly morphing message. At least he is trying. He could have just set on his billions, casting dispersions on everyone else as being stupid, lazy or corrupt…..like WE do.
Trump is no savior and I sure don’t agree with him on everything, but after being married to my wife for 25 years, I have learned to appreciate the majority of things we agree on and accept those we do not….without calling her an idiot with each opportunity. Our nation, our world, could live a little more mutual respect and tolerance, something the left will never embrace.
I don’t think anyone with any level of intelligence doubts Trump’s utter lack of it.
Trump has one very important ability. He can somehow convince close to half of the voting population, that he has simple solutions to complex problems. And in the political system, as it exists today, that might be enough to get him re-elected. I am not predicting that, but it would not surprise me.
Indeed but I don’t think it’s half the population but more like the Democratic party has an uncanny ability to elect truly terrible leaders just because they’ve been around for eons despite their scandals or unpopularity.
I don’t think the Dems could f*ck up so bad in 2020 that they lose to Trump again. Certainly not in 2018 which will essentially end Trump’s legislative program.
Only time will tell. In the meantime, I actually wish Trump and both political parties well. I hope that together, they can all accomplish something positive for the American people. After all, if America does well, that is a positive for the entire world economy. It’s not a zero sum game (in spite of what Trump says).
Ron J said:
“I actually wish Trump and both political parties well. I hope that together, they can all accomplish something positive for the American people.”
For each action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Affordable education made it terribly expensive. Affordable health care made it terribly expensive.
The positive economic boom ends in a terrible economic bust.
People don’t need any convincing. Repub-Dem is now like Barca-Real, Manchester-Liverpool, Yankees-Red Sox, Packers-Bears, Auburn-Alabama…. etc…
You can put a turtle (R) up against a frog (D) and it will split near 50-50.
I’d abstain before I would ever pull the D lever in the voting booth – that thing is covered with pinko commie cooties.
While in China recently, I was acquainted with two wonderful American citizens. Once it was established that one was a Democrat and one was a Republican, we simply agreed to not talk politics. We focused our attention on economics, the incredible growth we were observing in China, and baseball (as they were Bosox and Yankee fans). We all consumed a fair bit of Chinese beer and got along very well. It is possible to “get along”.
Of course, I’m a right winger from Manhattan. Almost everyone I know is a Dem. It’s called being a dynamic person and having many different things to talk about.
I appreciate people who are open minded. They are the problem solvers of the world. In my career, it has been crucial to work and associate with as many problem solvers as possible. Part of my own personal success has been tied to identifying them. Some of them are apolitical, like myself. Some have political affiliations, yet are still open minded (they impress me the most).
This is the same SHIT we have been hearing for over a year. Trump supporters are idiots. Smart people vote for Hillary or Bernie….the true brainiacs with all the answers who have never earned a paycheck without a government employee signature on it in their life.
Progressives unabashedly confess that they trust no one of wealth who did not “earn” it in “public service” (government corruption). Apparently anyone who can succeed under their rules MUST be crooked evil genius or a lucky idiot.
Trump is a billionaire, self employed in the snake pit of NYC real estate, and HE is the idiot.
I think your statement says a lot more about you than Trump.
I don’t think only smart people vote Hillary at all – there are plenty of smart people that voted for the Republican candidate despite him being Trump, not because of him.
There are idiotic businesspeople and there are very smart businesspeople, just like with career politicians. If you actually look at his interviews, Trump is clearly in the former as he totally lacks any knowledge on his own party’s policies, simplifies every problem in America to a simple and often wrong solution and is clearly heavily influenced by his questionable aids and advisors. Look past his money for once and you will not see an intelligent man.
Yesterday what President Trump said as far as what I understood it to be was that the DemocRats plan of ObamaCare is and has failed
Do we want to jump aboard with them?
After careful thought…
Let’s roll up our sleeves and get to work for the American People
I wish you well with that. I think America could use a little cooperation between the two political parties.
There should be cooperation between many different groups in America
But sometimes you just have to go it alone
Realist, do you realize Democrats have been elected out of over 1,000 elective offices here in the US? This isn’t just about Trump. This is a massive mandate handed over to a group of weak, limp wristed failures who have bemoaned their perceived lack of power to get us to this point. Dems have been dismissed in local and state races virtually everywhere and yet here we sit. The Dems still control the media, but at least that is now out in the open. No more veneer of impartiality for anyone to be confused by.
Yes, Trump is clumsy and lacks decorum at times. He’s not my favorite president, but in his bumbling, stumbling way he speaks many truths that won’t get spoken by any others. His supporters know that. Do you and your cohorts (from a dozen different countries) know that much about him? Or are you taking the pablum of mainstream US media without a grain of salt?
Sorry, I don’t know too much about the details of your political parties. My impression of Democrats is “Tax and Spend”. My impression of Republicans is “Borrow and Spend”. It also appears to me that they can’t seem to get along with each other, to the detriment of the country. Both parties would rather see bad things happen to the US, rather than agree with each other on anything.
As far as American media goes, I do watch some of it and read some of your publications, but that is a secondary source for me This blog is my favourite source of American info. I have no idea if the American media is Democratically controlled, but if true, I see no reason why Republicans can’t start their own media. Wasn’t that the point of Fox and others?
I find it sad that media is controlled at all. Kind of sounds like China. Their 30 minute newscasts all follow the same pattern; 10 minutes explaining all the wonderful things that authorities in the Communist Party are doing: 10 minutes showing all the wonderful economic growth in the country; and 10 minutes showing all the horrible things happening in the rest of the world.
I like to think that the media in my own country is not overtly biased, but I can’t say for certain that it is “perfectly balanced”.
I can say, that whether I am following media in my home country, or when I am in another, that pretty much everyone makes fun of Trump. Not because they are biased, but because its just so easy. He is just such an easy target. I remember George Bush got a little of that, because he fell a couple of times, but nothing like Trump.
He is just so awkward. He always looks like a fish out of water. He doesn’t know how to stand, how to shake hands, etc. The expressions on his face are priceless. He is a photographer’s dream assignment. He can’t put a proper sentence together, and I know eight-year-olds who speak more eloquently. He literally sounds like someone with a mental disability.(sorry to any and all with mental disabilities, but this guy is the president of the US!)
The fact that he tweets the most outlandish things certainly doesn’t help him and the world media can’t help but pick up on that. He is dragging the esteem of the presidency into the gutter.
He hates the media but loves to get in front of the media. And every time he does, he opens his mouth and says stupid things, which often contradict what he said a few hours ago.
I don’t blame the media in America or anywhere else. It is all a self-inflicted wound on Trump’s part.
Yet, in show business (which is what Trump seems to be in), all press is considered good press. It all may work out for him at the ballet box next time. He may indeed, have the last laugh.
But no, I don’t blame the media.
What you fail to recognize is the reason we are where we are now, our financial and social chaos IS the result of compromise……at least up until Obama. Only since Obama have we seen our government dominated by one party. Obama was direct in this….contrary to his election lies. He said “we won you lost”, get to the back of the bus, elections have consequences, on and on. Unilateral actions galore, and not a peep from the media. Trump has not tried to shut out the left. He has many policies that they would normally agree with. It is the left that not only opposes him, but RESISTS him, attacks he and his family in the most personal ways and yet Trump continues.
But NO, I FORGOT, HE IS AN IDIOT.
Any half way lucid and fair minded person would HAVE to understand what is going on here and how it is leagues beyond anything before.
There is no compromise because the left sees only absolute victory and Trump destruction. It is WAR for them now and anything that even hints of a Trump victory is an absolute loss for them and everything they have worked for.
“He is dragging the esteem of the presidency into the gutter.”
You mean it wasn’t there already?
Jon Sellers said:
Obamacare has problems for 2 big reasons: the tax for not getting insurance isn’t high enough to force healthy people to buy in, and the Republicans refuse to provide funding for insurance companies who are forced to take on more expensive patients. Fix those 2 things, and Obamacare works (at least as well as it can, which still sucks).
So Obamacare doesn’t have to fail. It is the choice of the Republican Party at this point.
That having been said, There Is No Alternative (TINA, popularized by Margaret Thatcher). To fix this mess, you have to get the health insurers, doctors, hospitals, big pharma and medical equipment makers to take massive cuts in revenue. Sense the foundation of our political system is graft, and these folks are the major providers of said graft, that becomes impossible.
No doubt higher penalties, taxes and subsidies to force more participation and shovel more money into a bad system will fix everything. Historically throughout the world that has worked so well. /s
Jon Sellers said:
I don’t disagree with you. But my point is only that there really isn’t an alternative. America has become far, far too corrupt. So it is in the Republican Congress’ best interest to feed this monster. They don’t have the ability or permission to fix it.
“America has become far, far too corrupt. ”
Nah… read the daily news in Brazil. You’d be amazed how much more room there is to fall.
“Massive cuts in revenue”
Are you sure the lobbyists are going to go for that?
Trump is no worse than many past presidents. Look past style, personality and Twitter. Is he worse than do nothin Obama, bush who was controlled by neoconservative, military, Clinton corruption and lack of morals, jimmy carter incompetence, Nixon corruption. I leave out Reagan and Johnson. One was likeable and firm the other a politician that knew how to itimidate and control congress. Line up Trump against these then take a breath and get a grip.
j c said:
Trump didn’t have strong support from mainstream repubs at the start of his term and I can’t imagine any of them taking any political risks following his leadership.
The Donald has elevated flip-flopping to Olympian heights.
Obamacare is inextricably tied into the budget and tax reform and if Trump can’t get some focus on Ocare then the others will be mission impossible.
Why does the GOP keep coming up with plans that the majority of voters hate? The CBO now says 32 million voters would lose their insurance with the newest plan.
Take a step back, and come up with an organized plan that makes things better for the majority.
How many of those 32 million WANT to lose their plan? The key to government run health insurance is FORCE. Either force them to buy insurance whether they want it or not or simply make them pay.
Is it not obvious that the GOVERNMENT plan for EVERYTHING is forced redistribution?
Does ANYONE here thing that was our founders intention?
Does anyone CARE about any of this other than what they can get for themselves?
Would ANYONE voluntarily buy insurance or pay their taxes unless they believed they would get more out than they put in?
Redistribution fails for that reason. We will only agree to it as long as we believe WE are the winners, which in the long term is impossible. Eventually you ALWAYS run out of other people’s money….which is WHY we see massive debt around the world. They already have run out of other people’s money which is why the create money and use debt as it’s legitimizer.
Come on folks, we know this is true. Why else would we have debt…debt that is absolutely unpayable, if we were financially sound.
This entire scheme is a joke because everyone wants so very much to it to be rational, viable and sustainable. Our willing delusion on this enables all other delusions and we find ourselves believing the most improbable crap. Like we can buy cheap imports while living high on the hog trading financial “instruments”, and robots will be wiping our but for free.
Well, a lot of the voters I talk to don’t want to be forced into the failing Ocare system, so it seems many of them would be happy to be allowed to leave. Have you considered that, Ekim? Anyway, there are 146 million + voters in the US so 32 million is a small minority.
Donald Trump requires that he be the “center of the universe”.
The worse thing you can do to “The Donald” is to ignore him.
His “ego” drives everything around him. Thus, if you can understand him, you can predict how he will react. (All politicians in high-office have huge egos.)
Putin has figured this out but has anyone else?
The Republican National Committee (RNC) has not. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) has not. The Clinton’s, Obama’s, and Bernie Sanders have not.
Those who figure this out gain a competitive advantage against those who do not.
That sounds pretty accurate.
fed, I mostly like Donny but I agree he has to get a handle on that ego.
I should have added, the president before Donny had such an ego that I think he could not reach the side of his head to scratch it. Not an excuse, but just sayin’.
President Trump does not lose any support by harassing Congress and pull their chain in two directions. We hired him top play asshole with our trading partners, Congress, Mexicans, and any adversary who chooses to look like Mosul. President Trump is the right man for the job.
Mosul maybe not a good example, here they put 40 000 civilian casualties
odd propaganda photo at the end too of EU Amb. to Iraq with schoolchildren there, so low.
Playing a hole with your trading “partners”? Are you an a hole to your spouse too? How many times have you been married? How about being an a hole to your business Partners? What a great Idea. Do you enjoy being an a hole? Ànd you want an a hole for a president? I guess he screwed a few thousand small business people and investors along the way as he bankrupted them on his way to becoming wealthy. Yep. He’s an a hole. Congratulations! You got your guy. I’m sure he’s going to do a bang up job screwing Canada and Mexico in the upcoming NAFTA talks. Because trade is all about getting everyone of your trading partners to bend over and take it up the a hole. I’m sure they can’t wait to sign that agreement!
Sorry but our trading partners have already left us with a pretty sore, stretched and inflamed A hole already, if you hadn’t paid any attention to our MASSIVE trade deficit.
I get the impression you don’t like The Donald, Realist. But Donny said his policy is America First, and you are not an American, correct? Oh well too bad.
As a business person, the Donald frustrates me, because business wants a reasonable amount of certainty in order to plan for the future. Much of my career and my life in general, is all about planning for the future and solving problems. The fact that he changes his position every few hours drives me crazy. But I’m not going to change him, so I have to learn how to deal with even more uncertainty. I always end up dealing with reality rather than wasting my time complaining. I am a pragmatist.
And yes, as many others have stated here (including me), he has a lot of flaws.
Nevertheless, I am not a political person. I have no party affilliation. I truly wish all politicians well, and I hope they all do a good job for their constituents. I am realistic enough to know that government is necessary, and that sometimes, they are the best solution to some of our problems. I am not so close minded to think that government is never the answer.
I truly hope that the Donald turns out to be a great President, who improves not just America, but the entire world.
As I see it right now, the Donald (and his many supporters) want to make America great while screwing the rest of the world. I believe that will only make America worse off.
We have met the enemy and it is us. Unless we vote out every incumbent, we and Trump are doomed. There is nothing Trump can do to combat the establishment that wants to maintain the status quo. He should use EO’s and the justice dept to enforce EXISTING anti-trust laws against the healthcare industrial complex, and put violators in prison instead of settling for cost-of-doing-business fines that are paid by shareholders.
I think he got a phone call. The one all fathers hate to get from their daughters once they’ve left home. You know the one. The one when call you crying their eyes out “oh daddy can you help me, my insurance is no good and now I don’t know what to do. Can you help us Daddy? OOoh please.?
I can just hear the call now. ” I gotta do something”
“Yeah that’s the ticket!!” I’ll call my ol’ buddy Mitch and Paul, ring ring ring “Hey guys, can you do my a solid? Get my ass out of a jam with my kid? She called me last night weeping and snifflin’ yeah yeah I folded and said I’d make a couple of calls, and that’s where you guys come in, I got to ask you to stay in session on this health care fix on obama care. What’s that ? Yeah yeah I know . But I’m sorry I’ll owe you one on the really Huge tax cuts were gonna give our party supporters ( wink wiink) yeah your gonna have to stay in session until you pass the rpeal and fix. What’s that? Yeah I can’t see any way out of it. Ok you win an extra per cent off the top . Oooo that’s gonna be hard to … I know lets do some building in your districts. I know all the right contacts. You guys are going to be hero’s and certainly reelectex in the th2018 elections. Plus with my contacts we’re gonna be really really fantastically rich. Thanks for working with me. America is great again!!!
You have a very weird movie playing in your head, packy. But the upside is you might get a job in Hollywood.
Trump is a joker if ever there was one. The only reason he was elected was because he was running against establishment in GOP and against HRC, the establishment itself, in the finals. These guys still DO NOT GET IT that people are sick to the gills of politicians, banksters and central banksters. One day the public will get sick of torching vehicles and shops like in Hamburg and get down to doing the right kind of burning…
So what are you suggesting, KPL? Burn down D. of C.? Then what? I would prefer people wise up and vote in some politicians that are truly for the people and the Constitution. But the people I know that need to be educated will not hear or view what they need to see, including this website.
“vote in some politicians that are truly for the people and the Constitution”
Are there really such politicians? I very much doubt it. You need to look no further than Obama of the ‘Change we can believe in’ fame.
We are in need of a new system which is truly for the people and the Constitution and since the present system and set of politicians are not the ones who are going to deliver it and we do not seem to be able to get rid of these pernicious politicians unless they are felled down by disease (how else can you get rid of John Mccain the war monger) how else do you think we can get the change we want but to burn the whole thing down and rebuild it. I agree it may not be practical but IMHO, looking at history, any change of the magnitude that is needed is just not going to happen without a civil war. This cohort of Government, politicians, lobbyists, bureaucrats and banksters, all riding on the back of the machinations of the Fed with no responsibility for any failure or screw-up, bailout by tax-payers (otherwise it will be worse, my foot) and skinning the savers, retirees and prudent people for a decade, needs to be stopped and it is not going to happen by changing the chairs on the deck. You need a change in the system not only politicians.
Don’t you see that this is what the progressives have been working for decades to achieve? Every policy has been to divide and destroy. The chaos we see and feel is from these actions.
Every tyrant has used amplified public anger to “burn it down” supposedly to clear the slate for their ideals. Seldom has this worked in the people’s favor.
And so many others saw it just as you. Purity through fire.
What we must accept is this is OUR mess. We made it, enabled it, asked for it.
The good deal, something for nothing, health insurance that would save us from hundreds of thousands in healthcare costs, social security for our retirement rather having to save for it, the finest schools and roads that rich people pay for, corporate taxes on our employers and goods and service providers rather than WE pay for it. We asked for it and there will always be someone there to grant our wishes come true.
The Republicans….TRUMP…. CAN’T FIX THIS, because we won’t let them. We want the best for free. We are so insane that we spend more on entertainment than staying alive, and much of our entertainment money is actually used trying to kill ourselves. Healthcare is one of our major domestic employers in a time where that actually means something and we refuse to pay….worse still we demand someone else pay for us.
Wake UP! This IS us.
Don’t you see that you are describing your boy, Trump, who got into power by promoting hatred against Mexicans, immigrants, Congress, and ethnic groups. All his policies are to divide and destroy. And plenty of his supporters are ready to round up the “problem people” and “punish” them. I think you’re his biggest supporter.
And there you go again, complaining about how your taxes pay for other people’s stuff. Yet you tell me, that you want to contribute to society. Hypocrite.
“Are there really such politicians?” Yes, there are a few. Ron Paul was one.
CJ, I agree with your opinion on Ron Paul.
Trump, however, is eerily similar to mad’s list of leaders who got into power by promoting hatred of certain groups (Mexicans, Congress, immigrants, specific ethnic groups).
I agree with you on Ron Paul. Unfortunately he does not get elected… Okay. So you would be saying we should be blamed. Yes. Then the solution is to make people see sense. But how? The solution is to have a system which ensures such people ONLY. Again how? The violence thought was more due to frustration…
one more thought. Even if Ron Paul had been elected would he have been able to do the right thing, would not have the establishment blocked him all the way?
Thus the entire cabal has to be dismantled…
If you elect a narcissistic sociopath what do you expect?
Judge actions, not words, and you would see Obama is your Huckleberry.
Yup, Obama turned out to be just as horrible as I expected.
Stuki Moi said:
“If you elect a narcissistic sociopath what do you expect?”
Which resolves to: If you elect anyone running for election what do you expect?
Hence, stop electing “leaders,” while expecting thiiiis tiiime to be diiiiiferent!!
Judging from a recent NYT interview our president doesn’t seem to know the difference between life insurance and health insurance? Or he may be confusing it with something else, he is somewhat incoherent so it is difficult to tell.
“But what it does, Maggie, it means it gets tougher and tougher,” replied Trump. “As they get something, it gets tougher. Because politically, you can’t give it away. So pre-existing conditions are a tough deal. Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan. Here’s something where you walk up and say, ‘I want my insurance.’ It’s a very tough deal, but it is something that we’re doing a good job of.”
And people wonder why the press all over the world make fun of him?
Judgement by a feed of fellow billionaires. I love it.
In just the last few days a growing number of articles have surfaced on the subject of Trumps “flip flops.” If voters who supported Trump become convinced he is playing them for fools it is likely they will loudly voice their discontent leaving him without a base. While some of this can be explained as a strategy change or that he is evolving it has and should raise concern.
With Trump detractors eagerly awaiting the day when he fails and receives his comeuppance Trump best remember who his friends are and that in Washington he has very few of them. The article below delves into the ramifications for Trump of alienating his base.