In the name of political correctness, the city of LA decided to rename Columbus Day as Indigenous Peoples Day.
Why not just do away with it altogether? City officials want the paid time off.
The Los Angeles City Council voted Wednesday to eliminate Columbus Day from the city calendar, siding with activists who view the explorer as a symbol of genocide for native peoples in North America and elsewhere.
Over the objections of Italian American civic groups, the council made the second Monday in October a day in L.A. to commemorate “indigenous, aboriginal and native people.” It replaces a holiday that served as a touchstone for Italian Americans, marking the arrival of Christopher Columbus in the Caribbean.
Italian Americans voiced anguish over the proposal, telling council members it would erase a portion of their heritage. Some said they supported the creation of Indigenous Peoples Day as long as it is held on a different date.
That idea was unacceptable to Chrissie Castro, vice chairwoman of the Los Angeles City-County Native American Indian Commission. She argued that city lawmakers needed to “dismantle a state-sponsored celebration of genocide of indigenous peoples.”
“To make us celebrate on any other day would be a further injustice,” Castro said.
The day will remain a paid holiday for city employees, regardless of the name.
One opponent of the holiday name change called it “a slap in the face” to Italian Americans. Another called it racially divisive.
Several U.S. cities — including Seattle, Albuquerque and Denver — have already replaced Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples Day.
Christopher Columbus Statues Beheaded
Axios reports Christopher Columbus Statue Beheaded in New York
A bronze statue of Christopher Columbus in Yonkers, New York, was found beheaded Wednesday, per NBC. Police found the head of the statue nearby. This incident comes days after protestors vandalized a monument to Columbus in Baltimore.
CBS News reports Vandals Damage Statue Of Christopher Columbus In Yonkers Amid Growing Controversy.
The New York Post reports Columbus Circle Monument Could Be Next Statue To Go.
EyeWitness News reports Statue of Christopher Columbus Vandalized in Astoria, Queens
Vandals spray painted “Don’t Honor Genocide” on the monument of Christopher Columbus in Queens.
PageSix reports Joe Piscopo wants to replace statue of Columbus with DiMaggio.
Piscopo’s solution will never work. Blacks, Latinos, and every nationality will all want their statues.
For some reason or other, every statue will offend someone and we cannot have that.
I repeat my Simple Solution to Statue Dilemma: Ban Statues, Tear Them All Down.
I propose we start with the Statue of Liberty.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
F vevaina said:
Your last line is the real kicker!
Isn’t diversity wonderful?
Victor Adam Smith said:
As long as everyone lines up with the one-dictatorship party line.
Adolph would be proud of them copying his exact tactics.
columbus never made it to california – his and his brothers atrocities were committed in the west indies on behalf of the spanish monarchy more than 500 years ago.
suffice to say, it was the spanish invaders decades later that infected the indigenous peoples with european diseases. .
perhaps the spanish descendants should find the 1% of the indigenous population that survived the spanish diseases, followed by their murder and slavery, and ask if they want the cities’ crime and debt ridden problems back.
why don’t they volunteer to erect a commemorative statue to the tribes that were wiped out by the spanish?
Congrats. Your indoctrination is complete. I hope you will enjoy the third-world craphole that your country is turning into.
People have been destroying statues since Roman times, but only of relatively current figures, like Saddam…This is a new high (low) in ignorance and stupidity….Doesn’t bode well for what’s coming….
Stuki Moi said:
The Taliban have been on a bender to destroy and blow up all manners of statues and artifacts as well. As were Isis.
Isis supposedly did figure out it made more sense to sell the darned things instead. To get some money to buy weapons with. The Taliban just can’t help themselves. They like blowing things up too much.
Without Christopher Columbus, the economic, social and technical progress that America has brought to to the world might have been set back for 100 years.The airplane would just now be having a few years of development. Indeed, countries might still be ruled by kings and dictators and very little development of any sort would have occurred. The ideas of freedom and liberty might have remained the ideas of a few men.
Stuki Moi said:
“The ideas of freedom and liberty might have remained the ideas of a few men.”
Which is exactly the way statue beheading progressives would have preferred it……
Stuki Moi said:
Just trying to keep up with the Isis’; smashing statues and beheading infidels.
Just wonder how come noone has picked up the severed bronze head, and offered if for sale to collectors of representative artifacts from the progressive era.
A body of evidence is beginning to show that when the “native Americans” came to America over the Siberian land bridge they wiped out earlier indigenous settlers.
In the end these good vs evil narratives are propaganda not reality.
Mankind has been committing genocide ever since he crawled up out of the slime. I suppose the correct thing to do is for every last man, woman, and child to commit suicide to atone for all those misdeeds. That would be the progressive solution.
And Columbus was not looking to conquer. He was looking to trade.
Putting the blame on him is just proof of stupidity.
It’s all a bunch of stupidity. All hail Saint Victim, the revered hero of the progressive idiot. Destroying cultures and civilizations is the only way to save them from themselves. Funny how these idiots never learned that the indigenous peoples were anything but peaceful. There were wars of genocide happening on this continent while the Greeks and Romans and the Gauls and the many others were erecting cultures and civilization in Europe. Of course Chinese history is filled with much the same. It must be time to burn books and libraries and such once again lest the truth be revealed. Not what I envisioned when I was a child in the forties and fifties.
Jarhead John said:
Diogenes of Sinope said:
We need to re-institute E Pluribus Unum, “out of many, into ONE.”
The liberals have taken us out of our one and imposed “many” in its place.
Our oneness may offend some, they are free to leave and go find what suits them.
BillyBob Texas said:
Let the REAL Indigenous People have their day off. That would probably only be about 3 of them in ALL of LA.
No Whites get the day off. No Blacks get the day off. No Browns, No Mexicans, No Mestizos, No Yellows. Only Reds. Pure Reds who can show proof of their lineage all the way back 10,000 years when he TRUE Indigenous folks came over the land-bridge from Russia.
The rest of you (me included) quit riding the coattails of True Indigenous.
YOU AIN’T ONE – and you probably don’t even KNOW one….
Jarhead John said:
E pluribus unum fit stupiditas
James Greenberg said:
Occam’s Razor — the simplest solution is the correct one.
Even the primitive people that wrote Deuteronomy knew that statues were nothing but trouble.
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.”
I am not a religious person, but it is absurd to dismiss all wisdom found in religion.
The statues are only symbols of what the man stood for. Was Christopher Columbus worthy of admiration, or not? Those who would tear down his statue would argue that textbooks should portray him negatively. The same argument being fought over a statue can be fought over a textbook.
James Greenberg said:
The problem lies in State-endorsement of said statues. Want to put a statue on your private property? No problem.
When the State presumes to speak for all, there is bound to be trouble.
James Greenberg said:
And you are correct — a statue is no different from a textbook, which proves that the State has no business managing education either.
First it was antifa attacking garbage cans, now statues. These modern day Marxists are an odd bunch. Perhaps the manifesto was tl;dr
Bobby Hill said:
“I propose we start with the Statue of Liberty.” It’s not rocket science to distinguish a symbol of individual freedom (Lady Liberty), from one of human bondage (Robert E. Lee). Columbus, unlike Lee, has admirable goals and achievements mixed in with his bad ideas and bad acts. Whom we choose to honor must be debated case-by-case. The slippery slope “start with the Statue of Liberty” is a cop out.
Lee’s position was more complex than defending “human bondage.” He felt loyalty to his family, friends, and state, and inspired his soldiers. All great men have flaws that could be considered rendering them unworthy of admiration. M.L. King, now considered a god by the left, plagiarized and committed adultery. FDR put Japanese-Americans in concentration camps.
James Greenberg said:
Are you really that obtuse Bobby? Lee had no positive achievements? You just disqualified yourself. Go read his Wikipedia page and get back to us.
So basically everyone who lived before roughly 1800 should not have a statue because they represented an entity that allowed slavery.
Alex Spencer said:
Frankly if not for the statues etc., the problems created by these figures would not be topics of discussion today. Rather they and their misdeeds would be largely forgotten.
Meaning they serve as timely reminder….or that you would rather not look in the mirror?
Sign of a top, when this is all there is to distract with?
If you don’t have a prospect of a job, and the world is turning to shit, will you care about a statue?
Perhaps we are in a new era when statues will take the hit and get the blame when it gets really, really crappy?
True natives would never align with the legislation of the invaders, nor participate by using it.
MesoAmericans, Celts and some Arabs are known to have headhunted…North American natives?
#Globalistatute is no replacement.
William Henry said:
I recall ~45 yr’s ago as a kid there was a little discussion about this. Changing it to “Discover’s day”. You sure have a cynical view (and offering no proof in the process – only cynicism). I’ve thought ever since why don’t we de-Columbus the day? All he did was utilize new tools of the day (better ships) at best to commercialize something inevitable anyway.
It’s an insult to the Indians as well. (There’s a fair name for it/Indians in Canada. They call them “First Nations’ [people].
BTW, if you like Columbus so much let’s bring up THAT WAS THE DREADED GOV’T SPENDING (by Queen’s wishes in Spain). You ever see any of the Viking rock markings? I’ve seen one @ a cool beautiful spot (The Rhunstones (sp?); which accounts for them wanting to keep it! Not, but they tried – just like the Indians we lied to, and fought constantly.
I think the only thing I like about Columbus is that he was an explorer. All the other claims attached to his voyages mean little to me…those are just political trophy making.
Similarly, I thought MLK Day should have been called Civil Rights Day, which would have been more inclusive. A lot of other people did heroic things in this regard. Even Washington had his day taken away.
Jarhead John said:
Flip Wilson—–‘The Devil Made Me Do It”…
Antifa—–“The Statue Made Me Do It”…
Sam Vesp said:
“I propose we start with the Statue of Liberty.”
Given that Patriot Act, Freedom Act, civil asset forfeiture, and the militarization of law enforcement over the past couple of decades have pretty much eviscerated any meaningful civil liberties in this country for those not politically connected, yes, tearing down the Statue of Liberty would be most appropriate.
Time to replace with a bronze statue of a giant boot stepping on someone’s head — pretty much sums up America’s global political and socioeconomic policies (2001-2017).
Alex Spencer said:
Good idea – except make it nice and artistic and large.
How many people in LA are going to donate their land back to an Indian tribe?
Didn’t Hitler have book burnings throughout Germany. Seems we are not far from it in this country.
Maximus Minimus said:
“dismantle a state-sponsored celebration of genocide of indigenous peoples.”
That would mean all native symbols should be removed because native people slaughtered each other in great numbers long before Columbus, not to mention human sacrifices.
But once you start dismantling common sense, there is no stopping.
Next in California, the movement to rename cities. After all, not only are many cities named after Catholic saints (not inclusive of all religions and atheist), but they are a constant reminder of the genocide by Europeans. Just wait, soon the movement will start…
As an aside, what happened to the natives in the Americas wasn’t quite to the level of genocide in some ways, since genocide implies a planned extermination. Since the Americas were isolated for so long, it was disease that killed the vast majority of natives. This was one reason why slaves were imported from Africa.
If current were used in the Americas, there would be zero contact with any other countries, to avoid this mass deaths.
Maximus Minimus said:
After renaming the cities, they will renounce their cell phones, and instead of clothes will wear animal hides, and go hunting for with spears, and when it rains, well, it pours, and so on…
Based on the REAL history, Columbus was not someone that should be idolized or celebrated for anything. He certainly wasn’t the first to discover the America’s and he probably wasn’t even Italian, more likely Spanish.
Columbus – the real history
Rev. David Felten
Taking the Columbus Out of Columbus Day
In 1934, Italian community leaders and the Knights of Columbus convinced Congress and President Franklin Delano Roosevelt to declare “Columbus Day” a federal holiday. Eighty years later, many are asking, “If we’d known then what we know now, would we still honor a desperately greedy, ruthless, genocidal, slave-trader with a federal holiday?”
About the best we can say of Christopher Columbus anymore is that he was a cheapskate. On his 1492 voyage, he promised a reward to whoever spotted land first. Hooray for sailor Rodrigo de Triana, right? Nope. Columbus claimed he had seen a “glow” the night before and gave the reward to himself.
As it turns out, the “Columbus sailed the ocean blue” song we sang as children needs a few new verses. One might be about how he murdered countless natives. Another might be how he also dealt in child prostitution, giving his sailors the perk of 9 and 10 year old girls for their amusement. His reputation was so grim that, upon the approach of any Europeans, it was not uncommon for natives to poison their own children and then commit suicide rather than face whatever torture was in store for them.
There might be some truth here, but the Huffington Post is equivalent to Pravda.
Evaluate the CONTENT – NOT the MESSENGER!
Here is the view from the other side:
Search a pdf of COLUMBUS: FACT vs. FICTION CT vs. FICTION – Order Sons of Italy in America
The link for anyone who want to read this history version:
The left is trying to debase and disgrace anybody before Marx. And I don’t me Groucho. My kids come back from school, not with the ideas of individual freedom and he history that surrounds them and our Founding Fathers. They come back with stories of sexual escapades and and all manner of other misdeeds.
The ideas of individual liberty and natural rights come from thousands of years of Judaeo-Christian culture. The idea is to trash it all. Hate Christians, hate Jews, hate the Constitution especially the Bill of Rights.
Symbols/statues that inspire people to better humankind are worthwhile. Celebrity worship of any kind, though, is asinine. I agree with Mish, take ’em all down. .
BillyBob Texas said:
Only those LA citizens working for LA should get the paid day off. But you have to prove your ancestors came over on the land-bridge from Russian 10,000 years ago. No white honkeys. No Messicans. No Central Americans. Only those from Russia.
Have you driven through L.A. lately? It went Third World decades ago. It’s a hallmark omen of the continuing decline of America. Expect the cancer to continue to grow. These subversives want to destroy anything traditional in America. All remnants of our European roots must go. Look what it’s done to the public school system in California. The L.A. mayor is a huge advocate of illegal immigration. He wants to continue to import more illiteracy and poverty. Rumor has it he’s getting ready for a run for President in 2020.
But there’s some pushback on some of the carryovers from Obama. I read that the Trump administration is fighting Obama’s order to remove Jackson from the $20 bill and replace him with Harriet Tubman.
Harriet Tubman: Black, female, Republican. Carried a firearm and willing to use it. Actually, I’m pretty OK with Aitch Tub.
Ron J said:
“Have you driven through L.A. lately? It went Third World decades ago.”
Hollywood is looking nicer than it was, decades ago. Lots of new buildings.
I’m going out on a limb here, but Mish’s point might not be so much about who it is or what it stands for, so much as it is ridiculous to allow singling out and destroying historical ART because someone “feels” offended in some way or another. Public statues maybe one of any leanings, but the art is still art. And defacing it isn’t a good solution to this debate. Hence the jab at the Statue of Liberty.
That’s pretty much it.
Spending money to build statues is a waste. But so is wasting money to knock them down and replace them with something more politically correct.
There was a lot of sarcasm in my post.
Russell Roy said:
“Italian Americans voiced anguish over
Translation: “That idea was unacceptable to Christie Castro. She argued that city lawmakers needed to ‘ignore the wishes of one group in favour of another, all in the name of justice and democracy. And anyway she knows best’.'”
And they accuse Trumo of being divisive!
The issue is, as Lenin said, ‘who, whom’ – who gets to tell whom what to do. The rest is just BS to disguise the true intention, to sugar-coat it with the veneer of “social justice” or whatever dumb concept the rubes will find most acceptable.
Columbus was not a nice person by today’s standards and many atrocities were committed against ‘Indians’ but, let’s face it:
Native Americans were 5000 years behind the rest of the world, having neither the plow nor the wheel. Those alive today are far better off than they would be if Western civilization had not sailed westward.
Wow, you have the most reasonable comment I have read on this thread. I know many Native Americans and I think they are just tired of being sh*t on culturally. No White Man’s guilt on this blog, nor sensitivity to others’ suffering; just the same old blah, blah, blah my family put me through when I was growing up!
Too bad you had to suffer so much dealing with the truth.
There are times I am ashamed of being a Californian and this is one of them. I know, I know, we Californians should always hang our heads in shame.
So now Washington, District of Columbia, is a doubly politically incorrect term to use for the seat of the federal government?
What will the special snowflakes demand that we rename it?
George Washington was rumored to have had a paramour or two among his female slaves.
Will we rename the capital and its district Slaveraperton, District of Oppressors of Indigenous Peoples?
These lefties are proving that Trump had a point when he asked where all this would end.
They won’t be happy until every white person who has ever existed and who did anything that doesn’t conform exactly to the deliberately prudish standards of a millennial neo-Marxist is erased from history.
You can’t judge people who lived in previous centuries by the standards of your own time. If you do that then even Abraham Lincoln can be quoted selectively from his pre-war speeches and painted as a white supremacist.
Are we going to tear down the Lincoln Memorial because it’s racist?
Will we destroy every trace of our own history in some sort of bizarre ritual of virtue signalling?
The real reason why they are pushing this crap is to distract the public from the real problems that our leaders have created and can not solve.
If I were Nancy Pelosi, I would beg CNN to run lots of stories on Civil War statues and never mention Obamacare ever again.
Cecil Henry said:
Its a crime:
Brian in Chicago said:
The easiest thing to do would be just to not have the holiday. Aside from the Anglo perspective of the “we discovered the western continents,” I don’t see much point to the day at all.
I think Chris Rock summed it up best in a stand-up routine:
“Ok, America wasn’t discovered- there were people already here.
It’s like: [acting Columbus] (plants flag) – “Yo- I claim this land for Spain”
Native: “Hey, man! Get your flag outta my rose garden!”
It isn’t the “Anglo” perspective but the European one. The “discovery” of the Americas led to mass colonization by Britain, France, Spain, and Portugal. Columbus was Italian, a point of pride among Italians and Italian-Americans. The natives hadn’t done much with the land; the Europeans did.
Henry Bowman said:
That’s right, p*s off the Italians.
You think Antifa can give you a bad day, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
What’s next ? Banning our flag from schools.burning books?this is how hitler started.
what a bunch of horse shit